2718709 Lance-Sergeant Joseph Thoyne DUNNE, 2 Irish Guards: POW

I am looking for any information on my father-in-law Joseph Thorne Dunn who served with the Irish Guards (career soldier, last rank 1960s Sgt. Major) & was a POW in WWII in several camps in Germany and Poland including Stalag XXI-D Posen Poznan in Poland. We believe he was captured during the landings at Dunkirk in 1940.

Any stories of him or stalag XXI-D will be very welcome.

I am compiling a family tree on Ancestry & want to include information about Joe's war years.

Thank you very much in anticipation.

Josephine

 

I will pull out his Liberation Questionnaire for you.

Regards,

Nick

 

We believe he was captured during the landings at Dunkirk in 1940.
More likely captured at Boulogne with the 2nd Bn if captured in France.

1st Bn was in Norway in 1940.

Neither BN anywhere near Dunkirk.

(PS moved this to the POW section of the forum)

EDIT: Diane listed IG pows here.
http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/irish-guards/39222-irish-guards-prisoners-war.html

there are 2 J Dunne maybe a typo for Dunn ??
2718336 130447 Sergeant J. Dunne Stlg 7a Moosburg An Der Isar, Bavaria, Germany
2718709 4429 Lance-Sergeant J. T. Dunne Stlg 383 Hohenfels, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
either of the Army Numbers look familiar ?

PS Have you applied for his Service Records from the Irish Guards Regimental HQ in Wellington Barracks yet?

 

Josephine, here is a link with info on how to research a soldier, including one who was a POW,

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/search...dier-research-tips-links-new-researchers.html


Wayne

 

Not much else to add really other than this book if he was fighting in France during 1940
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Boulogne-Battleground-Europe-Jon-Cooksey/dp/0850528143

You really need a copy of his service records to be sure of where he was and who with.

Good luck
Andy

 

Josephine,

Details of Liberation Questionnare are:-

2718709 L/Sgt Joseph Thorne Dunn, Irish Guards, enlisted 13.3.37, captured Boulogne, France 25.5.40.

Camps
XXIB Schubia, Poland
IIIA Lukenwalde, Germany
XXIC/2 Wolestein, Poland
XXIE Gratz, Poland
XXID Posen, Poland
383 Holenfeld?, Germany

Completed 12.5.45

PM me your E Mail and l will send on the original.

Regards,

Nick

 

Thanks to all who have replied. Yes I have applied to the Irish Guards. Now I have his army number. Yes captured at Bolougne so was this definitely the 1st batallion?

2718709 4429 Lance-Sergeant J. T. Dunne Stlg 383 Hohenfels, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany

Thanks Nick for this:

2718709 L/Sgt Joseph Thorne Dunn, Irish Guards, enlisted 13.3.37, captured Boulogne, France 25.5.40.

This is the man I'm looking for & yes its a typo definitely the right man & definitely NO E at the end of Dunn.

Camps
XXIB Schubia, Poland
IIIA Lukenwalde, Germany
XXIC/2 Wolestein, Poland
XXIE Gratz, Poland
XXID Posen, Poland
383 Holenfeld?, Germany

Now does anyone know where I can look for diaries or histories written by men in any of these camps please?

 

the second one is mine - yes a typo no E on Dunn.

 

Josephine, here is a link with info on how to research a soldier, including one who was a POW, and farther down the page is the link for Irish Soldiers.

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/searching-someone-military-genealogy/47584-ww2-soldier-research-tips-links-new-researchers.html

And the link for Irish Soldiers research and records.
Military Archives | Info Centre | Defence Forces

Wayne

Would this only show WWII or before? And is it Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland as well?

BTW Joseph Thorne Dunn was not Irish he just chose to join the Irish Guards.

HOWEVER I am looking for James Armstrong who was a gunner & then Mess Commissaire Royal Artillery born September 1838/9 Ireland (no town or county known but assumed Northern Ireland due to joining a British regiment) died London 1899. He was married in London 1874 & this is the first I know of him & then was in Fermoy barracks 1878. Here is a link to his photograph in uniform. Maybe someone knows more than the Royal Artillery who could tell me nothing - not even the medal he is wearing. - Ancestry.co.uk

Any hints would be great - I know its the wrong forum but don't know where to look i.e where may he have served as well as Ireland & then in London.

I am also looking for Frederick James Salt Leicestershire Regiment No 203997, rank private but we think he was a batman. Conscripted about 1916. Victory & British medals. F/102.B.23/2808. but no details about which battalion he served with or where he may have been. He returned from war but separated from my grandmother in the 1920s.

Again any hints would be welcome as the local museum are worse than useless.

Thanks in anticipation.

 

383 Hohenfels, Germany - I checked - thanks.

 

Do you have a copy of Jon Cooksey's Boulogne? It's a must buy if you want to have an idea of what he was doing prior to capture.

I have another IG book about a IG Sgt captured at Boulogne and his time as a POW but the name escapes me at the moment, I think his daughter may have wrote it. It has been posted on here as I wrote some stuff up on him (possible a citation IIRC) about him knocking out tanks I think.

Use the forum's search engine and you should find a fair amount of stuff posted by me and dbf.

I should be able to dig up some more stuff when I get home.

 

My IG contact has told me that your man served with the 1st Bn pre-war in Palestine and got a clasp for his campaign medal.

And the book is called Sojourn in Silesia-Possibly by Evan but I've not checked yet.

 

Date of Enlistment: 13 March 1937
Army Number: 2718709
Rank: Lance-Sergeant
Name: Joseph Thoyne DUNNE
Unit: 2 Irish Guards


Date of Birth: 26 May 1918
Place of Birth: Liverpool

Date of Capture: 23 May 1940
Place of Capture: Boulogne, France

POW Number: 4429
POW Camps: Stalag XXIB, Stalag 383

 

Army Number: 2718709
Rank: Corporal
Name: J DUNNE
Unit: 1 Irish Guards
GSM & Clasp: GSM, Palestine Clasp 1936 - 1939
TNA Reference: WO 100/503

 

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16753907
Reference: WO 416/105/265
Name: Joseph Thoyne Dunn[e].
Date of Birth: 26/5/1918.
Place of Birth: Liverpool.
Service: British Army.
Rank: Lance sergeant.
Regiment/Unit/Squadron: 2nd , Irish Guards.
Service Number: [2718709].
Date of Capture: 23 May 1940.
Theatre of Capture: Boulogne.
Camp Name/Number: Stalag XXIB Schubin.
PoW number: 4429.
Date of Death: [unspecified].
Number of Photographs: 0.
Number of Fingerprints: 0.
Number of X-rays: 0.
Number of Cards: 1.

 

Irish Guards: Medal Rolls, General Service Medal, Palestine Clasp 1945 - 1948

Army Number: 2718709
Rank: Lance-Serjeant
Name: J DUNNE
Unit: 1 Irish Guards
GSM & Clasp: GSM, Palestine Clasp 1945 - 1948
TNA Reference: WO 100/526
Notes: