Stg-44

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by easygreen, Jan 16, 2007.

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  1. easygreen

    easygreen Junior Member

    A while back I posted a request for some help in saving a G98/40 rifle from certain destruction. Sadly to say the rifle is going to be destroyed. Its a shame to because it would have looked nice in my collection. But on a good note, I do have a chance to get a Stg44 or MP44. This was seized many years before I joined the department. Back then the paper work wasnt as strict as it is now so my chances of getting this weapon look good. The weapon is clean with hardly no rust. Its has all the Nazi swasticas and appears to have the original magazine. The only flaw with the weapon is that it has a plug welded into the barrel.:( But still a nice bit of history. Anyway I thought I would share my excitement with you all.
     
  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    :hoverboy: Nice one.
    I fully understand your excitement.
    Even in deac form they can be shockingly pricey, I assume in the USofA there are people who can make it breathe again?
     
  3. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    What's the difference between an MP44 and an STG44? They both look the same to me.
     
  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Pretty much the same thing, was named MP as a distraction because Hitler didn't approve of new rifle production, after a stilted politicised development period eventually the weapon was demonstrated to him personally and enough pressure was applied for him to accept it. Sturmgewehr (Stg.) was then chosen as a stronger name to identify a new class of weapon (to the Germans ;))
     
  5. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    I can't locate it now, but there is an Austrian firm selling semi-auto replicas.
     
  6. montgomery

    montgomery Member

    lucky you I wish I could have one.
     
  7. cpstu1

    cpstu1 Junior Member

    The StG44 is a very 'attractive' (if that's the word) weapon, but you can't help but marvel at how cheaply built it is....stamped metal parts.....(wouldn't sell mine for an FG42...well maybe....) :D

    stuart :)
     
  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    FG42's are insanely expensive, even a quality repro one (by Arai... very odd) was up for £1500 last time I saw one.
     
  9. cpstu1

    cpstu1 Junior Member

    Von Poop - I wrote....'maybe'........;)

    Most StG44's in the flesh are really......rough looking weapons....as are PpsH41's...... :)

    stuart
     
  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Met a chap in Jersey with several 44's, he was a little cagey about their condition but I know they have rather more tolerant Gun laws than we do..... thankfully his Teller mines were fully deactivated ;)
     
  11. gjr1228

    gjr1228 Junior Member

    where are you/the STG located. I am in NY - USA, but would like more info on the STG if possible. Im not sure whats allowed to be posted on this site, but i believe my email is in my profile. if not i will provide.
     
  12. gjr1228

    gjr1228 Junior Member

    wait, i think i might have a problem with federal regulations...... oh well it would be nice to see this peiece of history. any pictures of the STG would be nice though.
     
  13. Panzerschreck

    Panzerschreck Member

    I was just wondering why the stg-44 is also called mp44? I have been told that Hitler didn't like the name of the gun, and they changed it to stg44 (Sturmgewehr44) I'm wondering if anyone can confirm this? Please correct me if i'm wrong.



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    Thanks, Michael
     
  14. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    My tuppenceworth on the naming, which I think is the standard version, is on this thread Michael:
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general/9813-stg-44-a.html

    was named MP as a distraction because Hitler didn't approve of new rifle production, after a stilted politicised development period eventually the weapon was demonstrated to him personally and enough pressure was applied for him to accept it. Sturmgewehr (Stg.) was then chosen as a stronger name to identify a new class of weapon (to the Germans :wink:)
    Cheers,
    Adam.
     
  15. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

  16. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Was it a successful design? did the troops in the field like it?
     
  17. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

    Yes was very popular ,also for allied troops to get one, I know that it was used at Arnhem, I think last year the AB museum got one for their collection, and at the military barracks were I work in Arnhem, 3 months ago one was digged up.
     
  18. kfz

    kfz Very Senior Member

    Was it a successful design? did the troops in the field like it?


    Yep, it think most people would agree it was a success.

    Its generally held to be the farther of the modern assult rifle and often misreported that the AK47 is a copy, (although I understand the mechanism is quite different). although the concept of a slightly lower power cartridge is now accepted as correct.

    Its quite interesting, I was reading about it not long ago, but after the war the British where quite sure the main battle rifle cartridge had had its day and wanted a much smaller bullet with an intermediatte cartridge. and developed a rifle to use it (wich looked a lot like the SA80 god help us!) but the yanks would have none of it. After while the yanks realised the limeys where right after all. Change the M14 to single shot and brought out the M16.

    It all goes round in circles, I read somewhere the US army is issueing .45" M1911 handguns again after the 9mm Brownings lacked stopping power in Somalia... Nothing New under the sun they say...

    Kev
     
  19. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    You can see from it Kev, where the designs were heading. How reliable was it I wonder?
     
  20. kfz

    kfz Very Senior Member

    Amazing how Germany came up with such designs and get them into mass production while under such pressure. The Panther, the me262 thel ist goes on. I guess most had their routes way before WW, but its still an amazing achievement.
     

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