Home Guard List

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by peterhastie, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. peterhastie

    peterhastie Senior Member

    For anyone researching the Home Guard, I have just recieved a copy of The Home Guard List (Officers) 1941 for the Northern Command.

    Counties include

    County Durham
    Derbyshire
    Leicestershire
    Lincolnshire
    Northamptonshire
    Northumberland
    Nottinghamshire
    Rutland
    Yorkshire

    Peter
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

  3. the_historian

    the_historian Pillboxologist

    I also have the Home Guard Officers 1941 list for Scottish Command, if anyone needs info.
     
  4. peterhastie

    peterhastie Senior Member

    As far as I can tell from the "Home Guard List Northern Counties 1941"
    there were two Battalions formed in that area.
    1. 5th Lindsey Battalion (Grimsby town)
    2 7th Lindsey Battalion (Grimsby Rural)

    the next nearest Battalion is at Caistor.

    I figure, looking at Lacebys location, the one your after is the Rural Battalion Commanded by
    Lt Col H Mountain

    Laceby probably only had at max Company strength or maybe just a Platoon or two.

    I can send you a list of the other officers in the Battalion if you think it would help, but theres no reference to Company or Platoon or more importantly for you location.

    If your on Ancestry.com you could search the names on the telephone directories. Most of the officers would have had telephones

    Do you have any knowledge as to why theyre called Lindsey

    Peter

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  5. ChrisM

    ChrisM Member

    Do you have any knowledge as to why theyre called Lindsey

    Peter,

    I imagine that in keeping with the practice of naming Home Guard battalions after the area of local government in which they were located, usually counties, these units gained their name from the traditional administrative authority, Lyndsey. I suppose that they could equally easily have been called "North Lincolnshire" or just "Lincolnshire".

    Was this practice followed in the other areas of the county, I wonder? Does your book shown "Kesteven" and "Holland" units too, in the southern part of the county, or were they all just "Lincolnshire"?

    Chris
     
  6. peterhastie

    peterhastie Senior Member

    1st, 2nd, & 3rd Holland (Boston),(Spalding)&(East Elloe)

    1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th Kesteven (North),(East),(Grantham and Spittlegate)&(Bourne and Stamford)

    Peter
     
  7. ChrisM

    ChrisM Member

    Thanks, Peter.

    (Probably stating the obvious, but I have found that an appropriate copy of this series of publications is often lodged in the local public library - although that's only of help to local researchers).

    Chris
     
  8. cholly44

    cholly44 Junior Member

    Peter,

    I'm trying to research my grandfather's Army history in both World Wars. He was in the Home Guard during WWII. He was based in Derby and was a Captain. Is there a chance he might be recorded in your book?

    I enlisted the help of the Royal Irish Fusiliers Regimental museum this month. Grandfather was a 2nd Lieutenant with them during WWI, after being promoted from a Sergeant in the Notts and Derby Rgt (The Sherwood Foresters). The researcher sent me a copy of your entry in this forum.

    Are you able to help?

    Paul.

    PS. I'm new to this forum... or any forum come to that... so haven't yet worked out how I'd send a private email with names and personal details. Please advise.
     
  9. peterhastie

    peterhastie Senior Member

    Click on my name in the top left hand corner of the post and it will ask if you want to send me an e-mail. I won't be able to reply till later on this evening.

    Peter
     
  10. HarryB

    HarryB Junior Member

    For anyone researching the Home Guard, I have just recieved a copy of The Home Guard List (Officers) 1941 for the Northern Command.

    Counties include

    County Durham
    Derbyshire
    Leicestershire
    Lincolnshire
    Northamptonshire
    Northumberland
    Nottinghamshire
    Rutland
    Yorkshire

    Peter
    I am trying to find details of my fathers service with the Home Guard. His name - Bramwell Harry Bonning and he was with the Yorkshire section and I have somewhere photos of exercises at Barnet Castle. Can you help please?
     
  11. peterhastie

    peterhastie Senior Member

    Hello Harry

    Sorry but I only have a list of the Officers and he isnt their.

    Unless the nearest archive or library has something their wont be much if anything on his service.

    Peter
     
  12. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    I am trying to find details of my fathers service with the Home Guard. His name - Bramwell Harry Bonning and he was with the Yorkshire section and I have somewhere photos of exercises at Barnet Castle. Can you help please?

    Hi Harry, a bit of a wait, till next year possibly, but the HG service records are due to be transferred to Kew. See here:
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/barracks/14702-mod-public-consultation-historic-records.html
    Regards,
    D
     
  13. HarryB

    HarryB Junior Member

    Hello Harry

    Sorry but I only have a list of the Officers and he isnt their.

    Unless the nearest archive or library has something their wont be much if anything on his service.

    Peter
    Strange. I know he was with the Yorkshire section and was a Captain as I have many photographs of him in his uniform with his men. He later transferred to Leicester and was an Air Raid Warden. I was always told he was with the Home Guard, but could there have been other similar units he might have been attached to?
     
  14. peterhastie

    peterhastie Senior Member

    Could he have been a regular army officer attached to a Home Guard Battalion, they would have had several.

    He could have been attached to an Auxilliary unit, they sometimes wore Home Guard uniform

    Aux Unit News - Auxiliary Units in the UK 1940-44
     
  15. ChrisM

    ChrisM Member

    HarryB,

    Could he, for one reason or another, have joined the HG some time after Feb. 1941 which is the date of Peter's record?

    Also I have found in the wonderful series of books to which Peter is referring that just very occasionally there are omissions. It's rare but it seems that it can happen.

    We are looking up the correct name, I suppose: Bonning, Bramwell Harry, rather than Bramwell, Harry Bonning?

    Could you perhaps post a typical photo? There will be someone expert enough here to give an opinion on the service to which he belonged.

    Good luck with your search.

    Chris
     
  16. peterhastie

    peterhastie Senior Member

    Checked Bramwell and Bonner.

    Lieut F Bramwell Derbyshire (Late R.A.)

    Lieut L Bonner. Yorkshire (East Riding)

    Try the National Archives. A final list was made Oct 44 and published Aug 45. If they have a copy he should be in.

    7. Home Guard (Local Defence Volunteers)

    Information from Home Guard personal records and enrolment forms are only available to those who served, or to next of kin, from Army Personnel Centre, Disclosures 1, Mailpoint 520, Kentigern House, 65 Brown Street, Glasgow, G2 8EX, telephone 0845 600 9663.
    The National Archives Library holds copies of the Home Guard Lists. Histories of various Home Guard units are included in WO 199 (see Appendix 5 - Records of the Militia & Volunteer Forces 1757-1945 Readers Guide No. 3). WO 32 code 66 holds the general registered papers of the Home Guard, while operational records are included with papers of the Prime Ministers Office in PREM 3 . Home Guard War Diaries for the Second World War are in WO 166 , and a file containing recommendations for the award of the British Empire Medal to Home Guard members is in AIR 2/9040 .
     
  17. HarryB

    HarryB Junior Member

    Thank you for the replies. Attached are three jpg's. One a letter at the end of his service, one a company photo with him being the officer in the middle and the third a personal photo. His name is definitely Bramwell Harry Bonning. I have found many photos of that time including exercises at Sherrif Hutton where he seems to have been based and some news clippings from Yorkshire papers if anyone is interested.

    I also just found the attached letter following the excercise at Sheriff Hutton which shows him as Lt H Bonning "C" Company 6th NR (?) Btn HG
     

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  18. peterhastie

    peterhastie Senior Member

    Ex Pvt Manchester regt WW1. On his personal photo it looks like he has two British War Medals 1914-18 side by side ?

    The letters dated March 29/43. Which meant he could have spent the early years as a Pvt/NCO and then been promoted Lieut after my list was published.

    The shoulder badge looks like NRY (North Riding Yorkshire)

    Try and get his records at the above address, give them a ring. They might say only he can apply or his NOK, but its worth a try.

    I cant make out the O/C Coy in the letter, is it Wood ?

    Yes please to the other pics and newspaper articles.

    Peter
     
  19. HarryB

    HarryB Junior Member

    Ex Pvt Manchester regt WW1. On his personal photo it looks like he has two British War Medals 1914-18 side by side ?

    The letters dated March 29/43. Which meant he could have spent the early years as a Pvt/NCO and then been promoted Lieut after my list was published.

    The shoulder badge looks like NRY (North Riding Yorkshire)

    Try and get his records at the above address, give them a ring. They might say only he can apply or his NOK, but its worth a try.

    I cant make out the O/C Coy in the letter, is it Wood ?

    Yes please to the other pics and newspaper articles.

    Peter
    He joined the Leicestershire Regiment in 1916 and transferred to the Manchester Regiment in 1918 and discharged in January 1919.

    As I live in Thailand calling is not an easy option. Do you have an address I can write to please? As his son I am his NOK.

    Attached some photos of an exercise at Sherrif Hutton and the Newspaper articles.
     

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  20. HarryB

    HarryB Junior Member

    I cant make out the O/C Coy in the letter, is it Wood ?

    Yes please to the other pics and newspaper articles.

    Peter
    Yes it is Wood.
    Some more photos.
    Not sure what the one with the Mayor is about.
     

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