Driver "Johnny" Myers RA

Hi Guy

Thanks for that - as I said in an earlier post(s) without more info its a guessing game.

TD

 

Further info from Jackie. Her sister Brenda says that two of John Myers' sisters' names were Violet (married name Sheffield) and Phyllis.

Both lived near Stanningley Bottom, Leeds

 

Hi Anne

This is frustrating as I cannot at the moment tie up any of the John Myers born 1918 mothers maiden names with any births for Violet or Phyllis Myers born 1918 +/- 10 years - ??? Plus there does not appear to be any marriage certs for a Violet Myers to a Mr Sheffield, unless there has been a major transcription error.

Does Jackie have any idea where they were born
Was Violet only married once??

I'll keep looking - as probably Guy will too

TD

 

You're a trooper TD - many thanks for keeping on keeping on

Anne

 

Anne, TD

Violet and Phyllis lived at Stanningley which is next to Bramley in Leeds. The only Phyllis Myers I could find in Bramley was born in 1909, but doesn't appear in the 1911 census.

That leaves the three of us scratching our heads.

Guy

 

Hi Guy

Is it one of these ??

Phyllis Myers
1909 Apr-May-Jun Wetherby Yorkshire West Riding

Phyllis Emily Myers
1909 Apr-May-Jun Sculcoates Yorkshire East Riding

TD

edited to add:
This Phyllis Myer born 1909 appears in the 1911 census:

Phyllis Myers
Parents Ernest,Myra born Apr-May-Jun 1909 Daughter (Child) Rotherham, Yorkshire-West Riding

there is another:

Phyllis Myers
1909 Apr-May-Jun Wetherby Yorkshire West Riding

trouble again is that are are both born in the same quarter

This is of course assuming that they were born in that area or even Yorkshire

 

Hi Anne

Perhaps we need to ask Jackie (if she wants) to obtain a copy of Johns marriage cert (details as below) as it may include a name of one of his parents, unless she already has one of course, and assuming that both his parents were still alive in 1944 to attend and witness the ceremony. It would provide (if the info is on it) some factual information to move on with.


Name: John Myers
Spouse Surname: Kitchen
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1944
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 40

TD

 

Thanks TD - I've passed on your suggestion

 

TD,
It was this Phyllis Mears born 1909, Bramley.

Guy

 

Hi Guy

IF this is the same one her baptism cert is:
Name: Phillis Myers
Birth Date: 27 Apr 1909
Parish: Holbeck, St Matthew and New Wortley, St John the Baptist
Baptism Date: 19 May 1909
Father's name: John William Myers
Mother's name: Louisa Myers

Which could mean the John William we are researching was named after his father, and we also would know his mothers first name (Louisa)

Her birth cert details as you found:

Name: Phillis Myers
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Bramley
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 332

Mind you there are still 3 born in the same quarter :

Phillis Myers
1909 Apr-May-Jun Bramley Yorkshire West Riding

Phyllis Myers
1909 Apr-May-Jun Wetherby Yorkshire West Riding

Phyllis Emily Myers
1909 Apr-May-Jun Sculcoates Yorkshire East Riding

If we knew which one then Jackie could obtain the birth cert for the mothers maiden name,

TD

 

TD,
I found them in the 1911 Census with the Knowles connection. Noah Knowles the brother in law is listed.
Guy

 

Well found Guy, this is starting to go forward. I have pasted below the same info from the census only to make it easier to read for others:

Name: John William Myers
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Armley and Bramley
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 5 Hoyle St Leeds
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coopers Labourer
Registration district: Bramley
Registration District Number: 499
Sub-registration district: Wortley
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 26884
Household Members:
Name Age
John William Myers 30
Louisa Myers 29
Phillis Myers 1
Noah Knowles 19

So using mothers maiden name 'Knowles' for the birth of a John William Myers born 1918:


Name: John W Myers
Mother's Maiden Surname: Knowles
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1918
Registration district: Bramley
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 327

Perhaps Jackie also needs a copy of that

TD

 

Jackie's been busy down the registry office today. She should get the marriage certificate in a couple of weeks and she's got to speak to Head Office about a birth certificate for John because he wasn't born in Bradford.

Don't know if it helps, but the address on Jackie's own birth certificate is "Spinkwell Lock House, Canal Road, Bradford". It's not there any more apparently

Anne

 

Going off track a moment sorry . An interesting story here about Spinkwell Lock House

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/tahistory/featuresnostalgiapasttimes/3842972.My_happy_life_by_the_locks/

 

Yes I saw that too

 

I hope you all had a good Easter break

Jackie has now supplied me with her parents' marriage certificate (attached). I also attach a document showing all the details which we have so far gleaned (though some are still to be completely verified)

Her father's birth certificate still to come, but I note that his father was called John Myers and was a labourer as described in the census

Also one of the witnesses might have been a Myers - is it a Leslie Gordon Myers??

Does this help us get any further on the trail of potential relatives of Jackie's father Johnny Myers.

I'll send on the birth certificate soon as it is received

Many thanks

Anne

 

Oops - should really look before I leap - given the info above and if my reading of the signature is correct we must have the right chap????

Anne

 

Leslie Gordon Myers was the brother born in Bramley in 1912.

Guy

 

Anne, TD
The father, John William Myers was a cooper's labourer and he died in Bramley in 1918 aged 38
Guy

 

That doesn't quite tie in with Joseph HR being born in 1922......

And where's Phillis gone??