England, worth fighting for?

Discussion in 'General' started by cynic, May 18, 2006.

  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Anyone want to bomb the BB house?
    YES
     
  2. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    Okay, you can be the Bomb Aimer, but i get to be pilot. All we need now is a Navigator, a Tail End Charlie, a Mid Upper, an Engineer and a Jeep. Morse can be the Jeep, but who can we have for the rest?
    Any volunteers to save mankind?
     
  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Is it civil war then?
    I'll take the tail as long as I can strafe Wimbledon if we pass over.
     
  4. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    I'll make several passes over Wimbledon, and maybe a few banking turns so the Mid-Upper can have a crack as well.
    So here's the crew list so far: -

    Pilot - Kitty
    Bomb Aimer - Owen
    Tail End Charlie - Von Poop
    Jeep - Morse

    We now need: Midd Upper Turret Gunner
    : Flight Engineer
    : Navigator.

    Volunteers required! Come on my lads! This is a fight to save Mankind from total annihilation at the hands of the Chavs and Morons. You wil get your own bed! A barely used toothbrush! And a lovely blue uniform that shall impress the lassies when you finally grow into it! Here's the 40 shillings on the drum, so who amongst you will vounteer!
     
  5. redcoat

    redcoat Senior Member

    Lest I be accused of racial intolerance, let me state I think the cosmopolitan nature of human kind is a thing to be celebrated, and I abhor violent, race motivated attacks. But we have gone too far down the other road, bending to the influence of liberals and activists and subjugating our national identity to the polygot cultural influences now rife in our country, because we are terrified of "offending" the minorities - the same minorities who, so often, attack our way of doing things while similtaneously enjoying everything we have to offer. Surely, that can't be right?
    .
    The amusing and equally depressing thing is that this type of rant has been a part of British life for centuries.
    At the beginning of the century it was the influx of eastern europeans (mainly jewish) who were threatening British/English culture, before that in the 19th century it was the catholic Irish, before then it was the influx of French Huguenots, and so on.
    I love my country and yes I will fight for it, but please can we stop the whinging, and face the truth. Britain is a wonderful place to live, and we are very lucky to be living here.
    Of course its not perfect, nowhere is, but its close enough to perfect for me.
     
  6. redcoat

    redcoat Senior Member

    My two penn'orth?
    I'm English to the bone. I don't see myself as British, never have done. My family are listed in the Domesday Book, and we've only just lost the farm last year in which we are listed. So I am English!
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    Have you looked at your passport recently ? :nospeakhearsee:
     
  7. adrian roberts

    adrian roberts Senior Member

    We now need: Midd Upper Turret Gunner
    : Flight Engineer
    : Navigator.

    Volunteers required! Come on my lads! This is a fight to save Mankind from total annihilation at the hands of the Chavs and Morons.

    I'm the nerdy one with glasses and I know the North Circular so I'll be the Navigator. :unsure:

    Adrian
     
  8. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    As an Irishman I have looked upon this discussion with Interest as the whole British/English Thing is debated. My view on it is say it loud :”I’m Brit and I’m Proud”. For better or worse its who you are and never be afraid of it. Reclaim the Cross of St. George from the lunatics of the BNP. Here in Ireland it is equally difficult to stand up and proclaim “I’m Irish” without being tainted as an armchair terrorist in the pay of the IRA. It has taken years for the Irish population to reclaim the Tricolor and its history from the provisionals.

    It pains me to see the people of the Island of Britain lose their identity. I do feel it is a legacy of the old Imperialist tradition that was there for years. You build an empire and eventually the Mother Country gets swamped by its subjects. Its not such a bad thing to have a multicultural mix and indeed I love London because of this. But its important that anyone from another country who comes to live in England respects the country, its heritage and its traditions.
     
  9. lancesergeant

    lancesergeant Senior Member

    As an Irishman I have looked upon this discussion with Interest as the whole British/English Thing is debated. My view on it is say it loud :”I’m Brit and I’m Proud”. For better or worse its who you are and never be afraid of it. Reclaim the Cross of St. George from the lunatics of the BNP. Here in Ireland it is equally difficult to stand up and proclaim “I’m Irish” without being tainted as an armchair terrorist in the pay of the IRA. It has taken years for the Irish population to reclaim the Tricolor and its history from the provisionals.

    It pains me to see the people of the Island of Britain lose their identity. I do feel it is a legacy of the old Imperialist tradition that was there for years. You build an empire and eventually the Mother Country gets swamped by its subjects. Its not such a bad thing to have a multicultural mix and indeed I love London because of this. But its important that anyone from another country who comes to live in England respects the country, its heritage and its traditions.


    I agree with what you say about the BNP, Gotthard. The things is that you say they have hijacked it. English people fly it from their cars and their houses. The trouble is the politically correct have tried to brainwashed us into associating the flag with BNP ideologies and tried to ban us from flying the Union Flag as well. They have tried to make us look on it as imperialistic and something to be ashamed of. They espouse their ideas on us and if we don't agree with what they say , you are marked as little England, racist, living in the past or what ever current in vogue phrase comes to mind.

    The flag of St George has been with us with centuries the Union Flag 1701 1705 or thereabouts. I could understand it if their comments were aimed at the BNP and the like, but they show their own intolerance and ignorance by trying to enforce their views, and I say enforce their views on those who don't share their beliefs or whose beliefs are different to their own.

    Racism, I have got no time for. But trying to force on me a guilt complex, trying to make one feel ashamed for one's traditions and one's culture doesn't rub. Let them preach to the gullible.
     
  10. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    Have you looked at your passport recently ? :nospeakhearsee:
    Yes, and I'm not happy about it.

    My view on it is say it loud :”I’m Brit and I’m Proud”. For better or worse its who you are and never be afraid of it.

    Never have been afraid of it, but it just sticks in my craw that everywhere i look there's St George's flags on everything (including an impressive 50ft x 40ft one on Jantex mill), where are they when the World Cup isn't on, hey? And my local council refuses to have the cross on their flag, insisting that we instead have the EU stars. Excuse me? We're in England, get over your liberal whinging and put the damn flag up! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    I'm the nerdy one with glasses and I know the North Circular so I'll be the Navigator. :unsure:

    Right then!
    All we need now are the Flight Engineer and the Mid Upper Turret! PP, will you be Engineer? And Lee can be Mid Upper, unless somebody else wants a crack at Wimbledon and the BB House? Anyone? I finalise the crew list tomorrow night, then we're off on our bomb training over Birmingham. Well, i thought we'd better start with a big target. (should i move the bombing into the barracks so we can play it out to the full?)
    Kitty
     
  11. BulgarianSoldier

    BulgarianSoldier Senior Member

    Hehe i was the tank enginer in the army if that work :)
     
  12. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    One volunteer is worth 5 conscripts. We'll teach you basic aviation engineering as we go.
    Okay, we still need a Mid Upper Gunner! And as Morse's phoneline is still down and it doesn't look it shall be repaired this side of Judgement Day, we might need a new Jeep as well.
    All volunteers post here and I'll set up the thread in the barracks in a few days once the crew is finalised.
    Oby, fancy being a turret gunner?
    And anyone with a target in mind after we do Wimbledon and the BB House, let us know.
    Kitty
     
  13. BulgarianSoldier

    BulgarianSoldier Senior Member

    But what is this ?? What are those consctipts ? Dont count me in untill you tell me what is this all about :)
     
  14. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    But what is this ?? What are those consctipts ? Dont count me in untill you tell me what is this all about :)
    Previous page. We're bombing the Big Brother House. I am the pilot, so we're going in a Lancaster bomber. You are a volunteer, not a conscript. We do not have any of them on this kite.
     
  15. adrian roberts

    adrian roberts Senior Member

    But what is this ?? What are those consctipts ? Dont count me in untill you tell me what is this all about

    We're bombing the Big Brother House
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    BulgarianSoldier - if you are in Bulgaria you may not know what the Big Brother house is.

    Big Brother is a reality TV programme that shows off the very worst of decadent Western Capitalist so-called Civilisation. Definitely worth you staying out of the EC and in the Warsaw Pact to avoid. A combination of the Eurovision Song Contest (excluding Lordi), the decline of the Roman Empire, and Sodom & Gomorrah.

    Adrian
     
  16. Hawkeye90

    Hawkeye90 Senior Member

    Previous page. We're bombing the Big Brother House. I am the pilot, so we're going in a Lancaster bomber. You are a volunteer, not a conscript. We do not have any of them on this kite.

    I dont know, this sounds more like a job for a 17.....but if we're going to be carrying a Grand Slam I may change my mind. I can do engineer if its still available.
     
  17. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    I dont know, this sounds more like a job for a 17.....but if we're going to be carrying a Grand Slam I may change my mind. I can do engineer if its still available.
    Hmm tricky, Bulgarian might be Engineer, but we still need a mid upper gunner.
    A 17 is fine, but a Lanc has a 14000lb payload. More explosions for your money. 'sides, it's faster, does a wicked corkscrew manouvre, and it's much more handsome.
    Though i could be pursuaded to use a Grandslam or a Tallboy. Any preferences out there? And we might still need a Jeep.
     
  18. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    I'll be your upper tail gunner Mossie!!! Now where are those pesky Nightfighters? How many JG's are present in the Birmingham area? Lets take out the Bull ring as a practice run!!!! Set course for Birmingham Sah!
     
  19. BulgarianSoldier

    BulgarianSoldier Senior Member

    HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDIIIIID dudes i dont take offence adrian robert but that was really harsh from your side you know what i mean.What make you think i dont know what Big Brother is ??I know what it is i may be from east Europe but that dont mean that we live in 50 years :(
    But never mind ok count me in i will be an enginer.
     
  20. Kitty

    Kitty Very Senior Member

    Here is the final crew listing for Lancaster WW-T for Tommy

    Pilot : Kitty
    Flight Engineer : Bulgarian
    Bomb Aimer : Owen D
    Navigator : Adrian Roberts
    W/Op : Hawkeye
    Tail End Charlie : Von Poop
    Mid Upper Gunner : Gotthard Heinrici

    Our first training run shall be over Birmingham, target the Bull Ring. Briefing shall be at 1930hrs in the barracks.

    Any requests for transfers from this ship must be posted in the next 24hrs, as this is no crew for an unwilling man to be a part of.
     

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