Dieppe Raid, Operation Jubilee

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  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  2. Bart150

    Bart150 Member

    Thanks, Drew.
    Yes, rather good site.
    Not the author's fault that he doesn't give any convincing justification for the operation.
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I've been doing some digging and found out the following on some of your pictures:
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Transported on TLC-2

    W/D No. T-62171

    Churchill III

    Sub Unit: 13 Troop, C Squadron

    Turret No. 13 in a circle

    Commander: Corporal G.H. Wiggins
    Driver: Trooper F. Hilsabeck
    Co-Driver: Trooper E. E. Farr
    Gunner: Trooper D. M. Jenkins
    Loader/Radio Operator: Trooper D. W. Scratch

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    Cheetah's belly was exposed as it climbed over the sea wall and was hit by a shell.

    Trooper Hilsabeck later described what he recalls as a shell hit them in the belly:

    'Turned red hot right at my feet, so it came mighty close to coming through.... It blew all the fuses in the tank, so we rolled back down in behind the wall. I got all the fuses changed with a flashlight, got it started up again and then we went up over the wall.... Once we were upon the promenade we were like a buch of rats in a treadmill. We didn't know where to go or just what to do.'
     
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  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I believe this was taken on Rue De Sygogne which leads up from the West side of the beach at Dieppe.
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  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    The Tank Landing Craft reached the beach in front of the cassino between Rue Alexandre Dumas and Boulevard du Marechal Foch and was carrying 9 Troop, B Squadron which it managed to unload (3 Churchills-Buttercup,Blossom, Bluebell and a Daimler Scout Car called Harry). Unfortunately no sooner than this happened the landing craft came under very accurate artillery and mortar fire which wiped out the crew and leaving the landing craft to burn.

    Blossom: (Churchill on the left)

    W/D No. T-68561R

    Churchill III

    Turret No. 9 in Square

    Commander: Lieutenant M. J. A. Lambert
    Driver: Trooper L. G. Twa
    Co-Driver: Corporal W. H. Wigley
    Gunner: Trooper H. A. Embree
    Loader/Radio Operator: Trooper J. L. Whitely

    Blossom under the command of the Troop Commander Lt. Lambert tried to follow the first tank but came off the chespaling laid by the first tank and broke its right track in the rocks and came to a stop.

    Lt. Lambert remembers:
    'We were doing a turn to get lined up with the wall, where Sergeant Morrison (The first tank) had gone over, when our right track broke... We had never run into that kind of stuff before... Once we had broken our track we were pretty much sheltered by the cassino and, therefore, the mortar and artillery shells that came lobbing over, because of their trajectory, landed behind us in the water... A couple of times things popped in, on one occasion, something hit me on the hat badge, either a bit of rock or shrapnel, and then fell down my gunner's neck, it was hot because Embree reacted quite vigorously!'

    Blossom stayed in the same position for the rest of the morning but continued to fire on a 37-mm gun in a blockhouse and other targets around the west headland area.

    Lt. Lambert continues to describe the blockhouse's build quality and what little effect his gun had on it:
    'It was like chipping away with a hand pick... or spitting at it, we were terribly undergunned.'

    Bluebell: (Churchill on the right)

    W/D No. T-68759R

    Churchill III

    Turret No. 9 in Square

    Commander: Corporal D. L. Brownlee
    Driver: Trooper M. Holden
    Co-Driver: Trooper G. Volks (Returned to UK)
    Gunner: Trooper A. R. Watson
    Loader/Radio Operator: Trooper W. C. McBryan

    Bluebell towed Harry (Daimler S/C) of the TLC and tried to manoeuvre around Blossom but got stuck in the chert, directly infront of the cassino and could only move a few feet back and forth. However it did continue to fire its gun. Looking through the tanks telescopic sight the crew observed a German sniper (By the muzzle flash) on the cassino roof. Amongst many other targets the sniper drew the attention of the 6 pounder which demolished the area where he was firing from. Trooper Volk was ordered to get out of the tank and unhitch Harry which they had towed ashore, and to see if he could clear any of the rocks away from the tracks to free up the tank. Volks was wounded whilst doing this and was evacuated back to the UK as a casualty. He was one of only two tank crew members who made it back to the UK on 19th August 1942.
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Came ashore from TLC-6

    W/D No. T-68560R

    Churchill III

    Turret Number: 6 in Square

    Commander: Squadron Sergeant Major G. M. Menzies
    Driver: Trooper N. A. McArthur
    Co-Driver: Trooper T. A. Dunsmore
    Gunner: Trooper W. G. Stewart
    Loader/Radio Operator: Trooper F. H. Noel

    Bert was the second tank of TLC-6 and soon stopped. Trooper Stewart realised the turret was not working correctly and had difficulty in getting it to traverse because of the waterproofing. Trooper Dunsmore, went outside and cut the waterproofing away from the turret. Bert made its way up towards the area east of the cassino later in the morning and had its left track blown off by enemy fire. Possibly from the 37mm gun mentioned in an earlier post.

    Now disabled Bert was still in a postion to give support and covering fire to around 20 men from the Royal Hamilton Light Infantry who crossed from the cassino and moved into the town. Three of the crew were later rescued by Coporal Heck's tank Bill and the other two were picked up by Lieutenant Dunlap's tank Bob.
     
  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Headquarters Fighting (F) Troop C Squadron, Calgary came ashore from TLC-1.

    W/D No. T-68559

    Churchill III

    Turret Number: F2 in circle

    Commander: Lieutenant B. G. Douglas
    Driver: Corporal J. H. P. McCann
    Co-Driver: Sergeant A. S. Wagstaff
    Gunner: Trooper K. Smethurst
    Loader/ Radio Operator: Trooper D. G. Scott

    Calgary landed between 0525hrs and 0530hrs on the eastern side of Red Beach near the harbour. It was under the command of C Squadrons Reconnaissance officer, Lt. Douglas. After landing it turned right and move along the beach running parallel with the sea wall towards the cassino, searching for some where to cross onto the promenade. About half way along White Beach its left track was suddenly blown off. After loosing a track Calgary took on the role of a pillbox and used its 6-pounder on targets like the cassino and tobbaco factory.

    Trooper Scott in Calgary remembers:
    'We were sitting with no cover and so had a good view of the beach. Lieutenant Douglas found enough targets to keep Smethurst busy until we had used up all our ammunition. Once we observed horses pulling mortars or guns along the top of the cliff to the Chateau, Smethurst hesitated because he really did not want to shoot the horses. Meanwhile we were attracting a lot of gun fire. We took some direct hits on the turret, hard enough that the paint was melting and running down on the inside. The heat inside, along with the smell of the smoke and cordite, was almost unbearable, so much so that Sergeant Wagstaff, who was down in the co-drivers seat, was put out of action. We stayed in the tank until we was ordered to surrender.'


    TLC-5, Blossom and Bluebell can be seen in the distance

    I think the Churchill half submerged to the turret maybe Boar from 8 Troop, B Squadron but I can't confirm this at the moment.
     
  11. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers Owen,

    I have a list of all the armour and crews from 14th Canadian Army Tank Regiment involved in the Dieppe Raid.

    Regards
    Andy
     
  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I can say I'm 90% sure now that the half submerged Churchill is indeed Boar from 8 Troop, B Squadron.

    Came ashore from TLC -3

    W/D No. T-32049

    Churchill I OKE (Flame Thrower)

    Turret Number: 8 in Square

    Commander: Sergeant J. Sullivan
    Driver: Lance Corporal A. A. Poirier
    Co-Driver: Trooper A. R. Birston
    Gunner: Trooper E. Paquette
    Loader/Radio Operator: A. L. Chick

    Boar was the second tank to leave TLC-3 after the first tank (Bull) exited too early into 10 feet of sea water. Boar made a heavy landing due to TLC-3 having her ramp broken off by Bull, as a consequnce of the heavy landing Boar broke her flame-thrower fuel tank off. The driver of Boar could feel when the rocks were starting to get caught up in the track wheels and knew to clear them out he had to drive in a straight line.

    Boar made the promenade after travelling west down the beach and then turned inland near the cassino. Boar remained mobile throughout the morning and was eventually ordered back to the beach to cover the withdrawal. The crew were ordered to immobilise the tank and use it as a pillbox.
     
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  14. 2EastYorks

    2EastYorks Senior Member

    Hey Drew, I really appreciate all the background info, certainly puts flesh on the bones so to speak.
    Matt
     
  15. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Carnage on the beaches of Dieppe - CBC Archives

    <H2>Carnage on the beaches of Dieppe

    Broadcast Date: Aug. 20, 1942
    "We have suffered heavy losses, and I watched our men die," says CBC Radio's Robert Bowman, just returned from the bloody beaches of Dieppe. The grim reality of what happened in France yesterday is just setting in: hundreds of Canadians killed, untold numbers taken prisoner. Reading from grimy notes taken during his eight hours ashore, Bowman does not use words like "failure" or "disaster." Instead, he lauds the bravery of the troops, and the lessons learned from the assault.

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  16. Patwalker

    Patwalker Junior Member

    These are not commemoration pics but `gloating ones` They are taken from German newsreels at the time and many were used to make up a pamphlet that was dropped on the Portsmouth area shortly after the raid. I know because my Father landed Canadian troops near the Casino and we have one of the pamphlets dropped by air a few days after the disaster. What made people wonder about a security breach at the time was that many of the pamphlets were dropped over the wooded areas behind West Meon in Hampshire......actually the areas where many of the troops had spent some time in tents waiting for the raid to go ahead. !!
    Sadly the `dead troops ` are just that. Casualties who were killed before they could get off the beaches. Many of the modified tanks carried special exhausts to allow wet landings, (seen in one picture). However they ran into the problem of getting a grip on the loose shingle and many either threw tracks or could not get off before being knocked out. They did provide some sort of protection for following waves but this was not the place to loiter.
    The magazine `After the Battle` did an exceptional article some time ago on the Raid and many of the pictures you show were included.
    In reality the Germans held thier own memorial service later to honour their dead which amounted to several hundreds but nowhere near as many as lost by the Canadians and British and there was also a token American presence among the invaders.
    Patrick
     
  17. idler

    idler GeneralList

    ... and there was also a token American presence among the invaders.
    One of whom is in this picture:
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18602&d=1248473105
     
  18. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

  19. Jean-Marc Ladouceur

    Jean-Marc Ladouceur Junior Member

    My dad was originally with the Calgary Regiment RCA. They discovered he was claustrophobic and he got an administration job with rank to go with it. After borrowing a bike to go to London and the officer that owned it not being notified (In other words they stole it) he was given the choice of a) go to prison b) take the demotion and you like bikes. We will send you on a Dispatch Rider course. He made it half way to shore but the rest of landing was called off before he got his feet wet which probably saved his life. His name was Henrie Charron but I believe he might have gone under the name of Rene also.

    Does anybody know where to get a full roster of even those that did not make it to shore?
     
  20. Jean-Marc Ladouceur

    Jean-Marc Ladouceur Junior Member

    Gerry My dad was a DR after they discovered he was claustrophobic. He did not appear in a book I found which had the roster. I would like more info on him if I can Charron was his last name. He went by Rene or Henrie. Any way for me to research this? He joined the regiment in Borden.
     

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