Brothers Flying Officer P.R. STREET D F M and Sergeant R.S.STREET 1638635,Royal Air Force

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Any information appreciated.Thank you.

    Brothers

    Flying Officer PETER ROBERT STREET
    D F M

    141090, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    who died age 24
    on 30 December 1943
    Son of Robert William and Anita May Street, of Berkhamsted.
    Remembered with honour
    GREAT BERKHAMSTED (ST. PETER) CHURCH CEMETERY

    Sergeant RICHARD STREET

    1638635, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    who died age 21
    on 27 January 1944
    Son of Robert William and Anita May Street, of Berkhamsted.
    Remembered with honour
    GREAT BERKHAMSTED (ST. PETER) CHURCH CEMETERY
     

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  2. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Flying Officer PETER ROBERT STREET
    D F M

    141090, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    who died age 24
    on 30 December 1943
    Son of Robert William and Anita May Street, of Berkhamsted.
    Remembered with honour
    GREAT BERKHAMSTED (ST. PETER) CHURCH CEMETERY

    Details of the above loss.....

    30 December 1943

    18 OTU

    Martinet I JN429
    Op. Training.

    Took off from Bircotes at 1600 hrs for a fighter affiliation sortie. Lost control at 1610 hrs while making a dummy attack and spun in from 500ft about a mile west of Worksop, Nottinghamshire.

    Crew.

    F/O. P R. Street DFM +
    Sgt. J M. Holmes +

    Extract - 'Bomber Command Losses' Vol.7 - W R. Chorley
     
  3. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    A terrible tragedy for the parents receiving the telegrams in such a short period of time.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  4. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Sergeant RICHARD STREET

    1638635, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    who died age 21
    on 27 January 1944
    Son of Robert William and Anita May Street, of Berkhamsted.
    Remembered with honour
    GREAT BERKHAMSTED (ST. PETER) CHURCH CEMETER
    Details of the above loss.....

    26-27 January 1944

    1660 HCU

    Stirling III EH933
    Op. Training

    Took off from Swinderby for a night cross-country. While flying at high altitude just inland from the south coast of Devon, a sudden and terrible disaster overtook the crew and their aircraft dropped from the sky breaking apart as it fell, At 0004 hrs the fuselage and most of the mainplane crashed onto a hillside at Coppleham Cross, north of Exton and a mere six miles SSE from the city of Exeter. Debris was recovered from along a path stretching three and a half miles eastwards from the main impact point and A.I.B specialists later determined that the rear fuselage had detached at around 14,000 ft followed circa 10,000 - 11,000 ft by the elevators and rear turret.

    Crew.

    Sgt. R A. Partridge +
    Sgt. A. Thursby +
    Sgt. H. Hewitt +
    Sgt. C V. Tomkinson +
    Sgt. T H. Jones +
    Sgt. B. Ackroyd +
    Sgt. J. Kerry +
    Sgt. R. Street +

    Extract - 'Bomber Command Losses' Vol.8 - W R. Chorley
     
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  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Peter thank you
     
  6. RobertBrown

    RobertBrown Member

    Just to update this with regards to Richard Street.

    Along with Richard, my great-uncle John Kerry was part of the crew of Stirling EH 933. I've seen a copy of the official accident report into the crash on the night of 26/27 January 1944, which describes the circumstances as the aircraft being heard in the vicinity of Winsford, then turning south east with engines spluttering before crashing at Bridgetown, Exton, Devon.

    I am currently investigating the possibility that the crash actually occurred in Somerset - on Exmoor - where there is another Exton (not far from the Devon/Somerset border) - in close proximity to Bridgetown and Winsford (and Coppleham Cross, although I have not yet seen an official document which mentions this name).

    I have had some communication with people local to the Somerset Exton, and there are indeed recollections of a plane crash during the war.

    I am not yet in a position to say conclusively that this is the location, but I do believe there is a possibility that Devon was recorded in error some 71 years ago. Wherever the investigation takes me, it would be nice if a plaque could commemorate the names of the airmen who gave their lives that night - which might be of interest to any of Richard's family who are out there.
     
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  7. janice Boakes

    janice Boakes Member

    "I am not yet in a position to say conclusively that this is the location, but I do believe there is a possibility that Devon was recorded in error some 71 years ago. Wherever the investigation takes me, it would be nice if a plaque could commemorate the names of the airmen who gave their lives that night - which might be of interest to any of Richard's family who are out there. "

    Hi Robert
    I am researching the Street Brothers becasue I am a member of the Berkhamsted History Society, where they are buried. Did you find a conclusion regarding the location of Exton? I would like to make sure my facts are correct.
     
  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    hello Janice
    Robert has not been on the forum since Sept 2016
    I have sent him a private message which I hope picks up to reply.

    regards
    Clive
     
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  9. janice Boakes

    janice Boakes Member

    Thank you Clive
     
  10. RobertBrown

    RobertBrown Member

    Hi Janice.

    The evidence I have collected, viewed in its entirety, points to Stirling EH933 crashing on the hill above Bridgetown, just south of Exton in Somerset (Exmoor). Bill Chorley (Bomber Command Losses) was kind enough to concur with my findings, and I am waiting to hear back from the International Bomber Command Centre at Lincoln.

    There is currently a plan in place to erect a memorial to the crew of the Stirling - of which Richard Street was a member - at Bridgetown.

    I have tracked down some surviving relatives of the crew, and would like to find someone connected with Richard, but he and his brother appear to have been single, and I am not aware of any other siblings. (I posted on the Berkhamsted Local History & Museum forum on Facebook a few weeks ago).

    A while ago I sent for Richard’s RAF record, and hopefully this will give me the story of his RAF career and how he came to be the tail gunner that night, although there will be no personal info divulged on the form.

    If you are aware of any relatives, or have any local info to add, I'd love to hear from you.

    Bob
     
  11. janice Boakes

    janice Boakes Member

    Hi Bob, thank you for the reply. I only started researching Richard and his brother yesterday but I agree neither married and there were no other siblings. I'll see what else I can find, there mother did remarry in 1950. I'm new to this, is there a way we can talk without filling the forum?
     
  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Births of Street with a mothers maiden name 'Rolls'

    Name: Peter R Street
    Registration Date: 1919
    Registration district: Headington
    Inferred County: Oxfordshire
    Re-registration Year: 1919
    Mother's Maiden Name: Rolls
    Volume Number: 3a
    Page Number: 1397

    Name: Richard Street
    Registration Date: 1922
    Registration district: Berkhampstead
    Inferred County: Hertfordshire
    Re-registration Year: 1922
    Mother's Maiden Name: Rolls
    Volume Number: 3a
    Page Number: 1607


    Just confirming above

    TD

    There is a part family tree (if you are interested) on Ancestry for their father:
    Robert William Street
    Birth: 1886
    Death: 1928 - Hertfordshire, England
    Marriage: 19 Sep 1917 - Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
    Spouse: Anita May Rolls
     
  13. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Janice go to your profile and click conversations you then speak to Richard privately

    Regards
    Clive
     
  14. janice Boakes

    janice Boakes Member

    Thanks Clive
     
  15. janice Boakes

    janice Boakes Member

    Thnaks Tricky, I did the same search yesterday and I'm waiting for a reply from the Ancestry treemaker.
     
  16. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I notice they only show one child, presumably Peter as its 'private' - be interesting to see what they say.

    I have often contacted trees with details from the site and they have no idea that the person existed, they only use details that Ancestry throws at them to make their tree.

    TD
     
  17. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    from my photo collection they are both on the Berko War Memorial

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  18. janice Boakes

    janice Boakes Member

    There are 13 WW2 CWGC graves in Berkhamsted Cemetery but only 5 of them feature on the War Memorial. I'm reasearching all 13 at the moment so may have some more questions:)
     
  19. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    well start another thread for any queries you have on any of the 13 im sure forum members can help
     
  20. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Good suggestion CL1

    Looking at the Silly name out of curiosity - they seem to be father and son - Janice - can you confirm or deny??

    TD
     

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