Discussion in 'The Eastern Front' started by Maksym Chornyi, May 18, 2019.

  1. Maksym Chornyi

    Maksym Chornyi Active Member

    For all like-minded history admirers, who have previously paid attention to my Poland-2018 historical trip I am excited to share a new material about one of the largest WW2 memorial complexes and museum worldwide with a total collection of 400 000 exhibit units. Within this detailed material I would like to invite you to make a virtual tour along with all the main sites, museums, and statues of the WW2 Memorial complex in Kiev, Ukraine, my native land. Also, I would try to fill the gap between my English-speaking readers and the names, notions, connected with the Eastern front, USSR, Ukraine, to detail into the historiography of Kiev in the Second World War.

    I hope this, in some sense ‘unobvious’ Ukrainian military tour would have no fewer interest that the previous ones. I would be looking forward to your feedback and questions as it drives me to work days and weeks on every article to share with you.

    KIEV WW2 MUSEUM: Memorial complex in Kiev, Ukraine

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  2. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    That looks like an amazing place and one that would take a day or two to fully see everything.

    Just out of curiosity, is it true that the memorial marker for the Babi Yar site is actually placed a fair distance away from the actual site of the massacre? I seem to recall hearing that it doesn't actually mark the site but I've never been sure if I heard it correctly.
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  3. Maksym Chornyi

    Maksym Chornyi Active Member

    As a person who has visited the site for a number of times, read a bulk of books, can say that such a question can not be answered in general meaning of one post. In simple terms, the Babi Yar ravine was, in fact, huge and there is no specific site of the mass murders and there was plenty of them. Also, there are a number of monuments today. Still the main and the most famous one indeed located on the site of the murders on 29-30 September 1941, which, as we all know, costed lives on 34 000 people. And it was also a place where corpses were burned open-air back in 1943. It's not correct to use these terms, yet, yes, the main monument located on the 'right' place.

    I have noticed that my Western readers generally have a little understanding of that tragedy and of the site itself. I would probably do an extended article this year with history, debunking of the myths and faults, with maps and topography then/now.
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  4. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    I look forward to seeing such an article. I have some paperwork to a member of Pol.Btl 303 who was involved in the massacre as well as to a member of Geheime-Feldpolizei Gruppe 560 which was also in the area.

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