Who used Valentines in 1945?

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Owen, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    does anyone know what gun the m10 s.p.a.t did use origionally,was it just a 3in gun,or derived from elsewhere.lee.
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Back to Valentines in 1945.
    From 112(Wessex) Field Regiment 1938-1946 by Goddard, Rankin & Vigers. Page 137.
    The Regtl OO on 31 March shows the Div as a series of mobile columns with the infantry in Kangaroo APcs and gunner OPs in Valentine tanks
     
  3. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    now,vic told me he never used kangaroos,just carriers,easy to get about on,and get off quick.lee.
     
  4. 4th wilts

    4th wilts Discharged

    i expect the russians used their valentines for towing.i mean,i like the valentine,but i reckon they were quite happy with what they had.:)lee.
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Valentine Op tanks in '45.

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    A Churchill tank and a Valentine Mk XI observation post tank (left) in Goch, 21 February 1945.


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    A Valentine Mk XI artillery OP tank passing through Hopsten, 6 - 8 April 1945.
     
  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    There are a number of good photos of Valentines in the Red Army in Battlefield.ru, but strangely the site has changed and all the captions seem to have disappeared so I can't place those :(

    This one for instance looks to be in a rather victorious setting!
    phoca_thumb_l_valentine3_19.jpg
     
  7. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    I've read in several places before now that the Soviets were using Valentines at Berlin in 2nd-echelon forces...

    I wonder - were there any still in use in ITALY with the Allies by 1945?
     
  8. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Being designed for the Infantry Tank role initially, the Soviets came to appreciate the Valentine very much as a Light Tank due to its low profile, good armor for the role, mobility and reliability, therefore keeping it in service till the end of the war. Production lines in Canada were kept open for this purpose.
     
  9. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    On this thread: Yak-9 fighter Juha has added in Post 15 and citing only the 1945 aspects:
     
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  10. Juha

    Juha Junior Member

    Also at least the following two
    3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
    January 1945:
    Total 176 M4A2 Shermans, including 108 with 76mm cannon, plus 21 Mk IX Valentines

    6th Motorcycle Regiment 14 January 1945
    had tank company with 10 Mk IX Valentines, artillery battalion with 2 4-gun batteries of SU-57s, 1 battery of ZIS-3 76mm guns towed by M3A1 Scout cars, a Machinegun company of 12 Maxims in jeeps, A company of submachinegunners in 13 M3A1 scout cars
     
  11. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Ahh, what an old thread!

    I haven't got it yet, but listened to a podcast interview with Peter Samsonov who has written "British Tanks of the Red Army" (published by Gallantry Books - possibly a boutique/private publisher? haven't found much about them)
     
  12. Juha

    Juha Junior Member

    According to Wiki
    "In August 1945, as part of the Soviet invasion of Manchuria, the 267th Tank Regiment (40 Valentine III and IX) of the 59th Cavalry Division Red Army, together with the 65th T-34-85 43rd Tank Brigade, passed from Eastern Gobi across the mountains Greater Khingan to Kalgan in China."
     
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  13. Orwell1984

    Orwell1984 Senior Member

    They're connected to Mortons who publish magazines, magbooks (what I call large than a magazine but not quite the size of a full book) and books. Casemate distributes them.
    Here's a review of the title mentioned
    British Tanks of the Red Army | IPMS/USA Reviews

    and they're sold on through the river company: British Tanks of the Red Army: Samsonov, Peter: 9781911704065: Books - Amazon.ca.

    I have this book as well as his titles on the T-34 and Red Army Shermans and can give them a hearty thumbs up.
     
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  14. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    The Valentine was used as the troop commander's vehicle for anti-tank troops. See the overview in the Trux section on Anti-tank artillery. Anti tank artillery | WW2Talk

    The original troop commanders vehicle was an armoured OP - i.e. a Bren/Universal carrier. This was inferior in cross country mobility and protection to either of the 17 pounder SP equipment and resulted in the TC commanding an M10 or hanging onto the outside of an M10 or commanding on foot. These were replaced in corps and armour division regiments by Crusader AA tanks withdrawn from the RAC or by M5 Stuarts in at least one Canadian regiment.
     
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