Remembrance Sunday

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  1. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Ferahgo

    Do you observe silence on the Sunday or the 11th or both? Just realised i never knew, i always did both


    Most people follow the old adage "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" and so, having thought about it, if I was in company that was observing both dates I would almost certainly follow suit.

    I belong to a generation that always, without exception, stood for the National Anthem whenever it was played, including at the end of every cinema or stage performance.

    I doubt if I shall see such days again during my lifetime :(

    Ron
     
  2. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Tom

    The British hold Remembrance day on the second Sunday in November? Blimey! Isn't that a faux pas?:huh:

    We here in the colony, conduct Remembrance Day ceremonies on the 11th Day of the 11th Month at the 11th hour.

    Forum members....How about the other Commonwealth countries?


    Meant to say Remembrance Sunday:(.

    Remembrance day is I am aware observed at the Embassy at 1100 and this year the Embassy Naval Attache and the RBL are attending Sachsenhausen, where the Special service personnel were held and executed.

    Sorry for the disinformation.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  3. WhiskeyGolf

    WhiskeyGolf Senior Member

    In NZ we call it Armistice Day, and I will be attending ceremony's on the 11th at the Te Awamutu cenotaph, then on Sunday 14th at the Cambridge cenotaph. Cambridge dedicates a whole weekend to NZ's military heritage every year at this time.
     
  4. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    In NZ we call it Armistice Day, and I will be attending ceremony's on the 11th at the Te Awamutu cenotaph, then on Sunday 14th at the Cambridge cenotaph. Cambridge dedicates a whole weekend to NZ's military heritage every year at this time.

    Wendy, in Canada, the ceremonies are always held on the 11th of November regardless of the day. Some provinces declare it to be a holiday.

    Cheers
    Randy
     
  5. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Myself and my dog will be at the local cenotaph for the service on the 14th on the 11th we will observe the 2 minutes silence.
     
  6. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Meant to say Remembrance Sunday:(.

    Remembrance day is I am aware observed at the Embassy at 1100 and this year the Embassy Naval Attache and the RBL are attending Sachsenhausen, where the Special service personnel were held and executed.

    Sorry for the disinformation.

    Regards
    Tom

    Tom,

    Is there a German equivalent to Remembrance Day?

    Randy
     
  7. Ednamay

    Ednamay wanderer

    Some of us do observe 11/11/11; I always read the following, in memory of my uncle Will who served with the Royal Hampshire Rgt.:-


    In Flanders Fields
    by John McCrae, May 1915


    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row,
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the Dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved and were loved, and now we lie
    In Flanders fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe:
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Flanders fields.

    Edna
     
  8. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Tom,

    Is there a German equivalent to Remembrance Day?

    Randy

    Randy,

    Yes it is called Volkstrauertag.

    Volkstrauertag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It has been chopped and changed over the years and usually falls the week after our remembrance Sunday, but sometimes falls on the same day, like this year.

    Makes it difficult as we usaually attend Stahnsdorf CWGC on Remembrance Sunday and the German section ther following week.

    This year it is impossible to be in several paces at one time and so the CWGC on Heer strasse takes priority with our Standard, although the Legion is represented at Stahnsdorf together with the Embassy.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  9. eddie chandler

    eddie chandler Senior Member

    Steve

    Let me know if you are going to attend the Chindit memorial, it was my intention to do so this year, so may be we could meet whilst there.

    As you rightly say so Steve it is time for the younger generations to remember the sacrifices of those men past and present. Although the numbers of men who survived the wars may dwindle for each conflict as the years past, it is the duty of those who now benefit from the men who died fighting for their country.

    I will stand proud particularly for my great grand father who never mentioned his contribution to his country and the act of gallantry that he was 'rewarded' for, but my thoughts will be for those who never returned and who's families I have managed to trace in my research into the Chindits and Operation Thursday.

    I am very lucky to have found several survivors in his brigade (Fergussons 16th Brigade, who walked into Burma). I will be visiting two of them the weekend before Remembrance Sunday which will be very fitting to me.

    I have always viewed Remembrance Sunday as a day to think of those who never came home, but this year will mark a turning point for me in that I will feel more attached to the soldiers who fought due to the connection of my Great grandfather.

    'We shall remember them'

    Eddie Chandler
     
  10. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Hi Ed,

    That is my intention mate. I'll email you soon and we can sort out the details.

    Steve.
     
  11. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Randy,

    Yes it is called Volkstrauertag.

    Volkstrauertag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It has been chopped and changed over the years and usually falls the week after our remembrance Sunday, but sometimes falls on the same day, like this year.

    Makes it difficult as we usaually attend Stahnsdorf CWGC on Remembrance Sunday and the German section ther following week.

    This year it is impossible to be in several paces at one time and so the CWGC on Heer strasse takes priority with our Standard, although the Legion is represented at Stahnsdorf together with the Embassy.

    Regards
    Tom


    Tom

    Thanks for the info.

    Randy
     
  12. WhiskeyGolf

    WhiskeyGolf Senior Member

    Wendy, in Canada, the ceremonies are always held on the 11th of November regardless of the day. Some provinces declare it to be a holiday.

    Cheers
    Randy

    Hi Randy
    We have ceremonies all around the country on the 11th, and some radio stations also have a 2 minute silence, but the one in Cambridge is to coincide with the weekend's celebrations which can't be held on weekdays due to the nature of the event. (The 11th of the 11th is not declared a holiday over here).

    Cheers
    Wendy
     
  13. Ferahgo

    Ferahgo Senior Member

    Cool, thanks guys :)
     
  14. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    On the day, London Tube will be providing their usual helpful service :(

    The National Service of Remembrance is being held at the Cenotaph in Whitehall on November 14th. On the same day a large part of the Tube Service will be closed for maintainance.

    Ex serviceman, Ian Rees, is President of the Muswell Hill and Highgate branch of the Royal British Legion. He has told LBC he is disappointed in Transport for London:
    "We've had this for the last two years. Why do it on Remembrance Sunday when people who rely on transport to go to this service? It is only once a year, surely they could have done it another time?"
    The only three that are due to be running a good service on the day are the Bakerloo Line, Northern Line and DLR.
    The Circle Line, Jubilee Line, Victoria Line, Waterloo and City and Overground Line are completely closedon the 14th. The rest have part closures.
    There are fears the disruption could prevent people from attending the celebrations.

    A lot of elderly marchers will be hit by these closures and the Picadilly line from Cockfosters will certainly be affected.

    On a purely selfish note, the Northern Line appears to be my best bet as I can pick it up at Totteridge (10 mtes by car) and go direct to Leicester Square, which is walking distance from Whitehall.
    However, I can well see a large number of veterans and their families being forced to miss the ceremony because of the lack of Tube services.

    Watch this space !

    Ron
     
  15. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    We are talking about Poppy sellers.

    It's only 10 days to go before Remembrance Sunday on the 14th and although I planned to buy "fresh" poppies (for me & 'er indoors) at Leicester Square on the day I thought it would be an idea to see if they were selling them today in a local high street.

    I was in the Southgate area and did a trawl which took in the various banks, the Tube station, the local main supermarket and virtually every place that I thought might have this worthy cause at heart.

    I asked a traffic warden and a street cleaner .... no joy, in fact no one seemed to be in the least bit interested.

    I finally stopped at the local M&S food store and was glad to see that there was a security guard in the entrance. In his mid twenties, I would guess and to my eyes very much born & bred here in the UK.

    "Seen any poppy sellers around" I asked, in my ignorance.

    "Poppy seller" he said......."whats a poppy seller ?"

    I give up........ Leicester Square it will have to be !

    Ron
     
  16. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Youngest lad lost his so on way to school bought one in our local Tesco Express .
    I'm wearing mine on my fleece but not wearing one to work as it gets too tatty too quickly & can't been seen under my hi-viz, suppose I could try & get a sticker.
    Car has Poppy sticker in back window, can't fit one to front grill , it's diferent to old car & too hard to get cable ties around it.
     
  17. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    "Seen any poppy sellers around" I asked, in my ignorance.

    "Poppy seller" he said......."whats a poppy seller ?"

    Ron

    Ron,

    The only place I could get a poppy was at my local Tesco supermarket, they seem to be more dificult to obtain as the years pass.

    Regards
    Peter
     
  18. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Quite the opposite here (Leicestershire).
    Seem to be flooded with sources. Shops etc. carrying 'em increases every year.

    I s'pose it comes down to the keenness of Local legions? (Don't know anything about the distribution scheme though.)
    Wonder if London area sometimes ends up with sparser coverage as a side effect of it holding 'the main event'? Efforts concentrated on the main admin functions to the detriment of the day-to-day push maybe?
     
  19. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Soldiers to march 1,000 miles for Remembrance Day

    BBC News - Welsh soldiers' Poppy Appeal speed march from Cardiff

    A team of Welsh soldiers set off from Cardiff later on a gruelling speed march to London, as they raise cash for this years Poppy Appeal.


    The five members of 2nd Battalion Royal Welsh will join colleagues from the other armed forces at Wootton Bassett, before continuing the march.
    They will also deliver a book of remembrance to the Royal Albert Hall on Remembrance Day.
    The March for Honour teams will cover 1,000 miles over the next eight days.
     
  20. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    With me always sold door to door and at my local shop. :poppy::poppy::poppy:
    I would never refuse anyone selling on the street , it is an obligation to to support the Poppy Appeal.
     

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