Imperial War Museum

Discussion in 'Research Material' started by Noel Burgess, Aug 6, 2010.

  1. Noel Burgess

    Noel Burgess Senior Member

    Just reading in a Business I.T. magazine at work - about a project to digitise "every item" in the Imperial War Museum. Mostly the article is about the Hardware, Software & systems used but a couple of interesting quotes are:
    ...helps it {IWM} to make money out of unique WW1 & WW11 films and photographs.


    The aim is to finish digitising the entire collection, then use the web site as a film sales site


    Hope this means we will be able to see all thier photo collection on-line at some time in the not too distant future and view/buy copies of thier collection of publications and .... and .....

    Noel
     
  2. Phaethon

    Phaethon Historian

    Well all their periodicals are currently unavailable until next year at the earliest.... so I hope they're doing something with them because otherwise they're just sitting in a warehouse somewhere gathering dust. Very annoying. :mad:
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers Noel.

    They already have photographs online that you can purchase (They ain't cheap-about a fiver each I think). Rob (Ramacal) purchased some fascinating film footage of his Dads unit in Holland and I think Germany in 44-45 which is brilliant but I don't think it was cheap. I'll let him shock you with the price :D
     
  4. roodymiller

    roodymiller Senior Member

    There are three sound recordings regarding 13 para that I would like, but I was quoted £10 per reel, one recording was 7 reels!! I can't justify that...

    It's a long shot, but if anyone has them or is going the recordings are

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  5. Noel Burgess

    Noel Burgess Senior Member

    Was aware that some photos are already available online but I also believe that they are not all online at present and I am hoping that eventually we will at least be able to view the thumbnails of them all (for free I hope).
    Also hopeing that the film section will be something like Pathe. More of a problem with publications - some people might belive that they could just copy the image to their hard disk without paying. (not me honest gov)
    Noel
     
  6. Phaethon

    Phaethon Historian

    There are three sound recordings regarding 13 para that I would like, but I was quoted £10 per reel, one recording was 7 reels!! I can't justify that...

    It's a long shot, but if anyone has them or is going the recordings are

    AutoID: 524336 ,ID No: 12417

    AutoID: 525057 ,ID No: 13155

    AutoID: 528587 ,ID No: 17079


    Roody, that's not even the whole story. Its an additional ten pounds handling fee and an additional ten pounds per recording, then the price of CD's. So you're looking at around 90 quid there.

    It is free if you visit though, just you can't take a copy whilst there.
     
  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Encouraging news I reckon Noel.
    Hopefully a sign of a stronger drift towards more complete digitising of our national collections.
     
  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  9. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Thank goodness for that. The Director's period in charge of the Museum of Childhood obviously didn't teach her that boys like guns and the bigger the better, or perhaps she has a problem with that concept.

    I really do believe that military museums should be run by ex-military personnel.
     
  10. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    I agree Rich. Those guns are the iconic image of the museum.
    What next? Take the guns off the Spits? Ban the 17-pounder?
    It's a War Museum for God's sake!
    :mad:

    Mike
     
  11. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Yes Mike, but it's going to be a war museum designed to make the luvvies and their highly paid architect friends feel good about themselves rather than one intended to show us what a bloody good job our forebears did.

    Isn't Norman Foster one of the gang who has done more damage to London than the Luftwaffe ?

    It's a former mental hospital for goodness sake. What better place for a war museum and why shouldn't it look like one ?
     
  12. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    By God mate, sounds like you, me, Charlie Boy and Capt Sensible all singing from the same sheet!

    Mike
     
  13. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    This with the guns dos'nt surprise me at all.
    The museum in my opinion has not been what it was for some years now. I know museums have to adapt with the times but I for one can't stand all these large theme boards with text you have to look over someones shoulder to try and read taking up all the valuable space.
    When I used to go with my father in the 50's (to see 'his' gun) the place was a veritable wonderland! crammed full with so much stuff you would'nt believe.
    Shame, Rob
     
  14. Alan Allport

    Alan Allport Senior Member

    A careful read of the article shows that (a) this was never more than a proposal, of the kind museums and public institutions receive all the time, (b) it came not from the IWM itself but from their subcontractor, (c) at no stage is there any indication that it was seriously considered, and (d) there is no evidence whatsoever that the proposal was provoked by a "dislike for guns."

    I've had the pleasure of working with IWM staff for some years now, and they've always impressed me with their professionalism and their commitment to the museum and its mission.

    Best, Alan
     
  15. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    this was never more than a proposal

    Pretty much what I was thinking.

    "Museum looks at architectural proposals! Decides not to act on some!"
    Doesn't really make much of a story to me.

    I imagine they just couldn't resist the 'spikes/guns' punning headline...
     
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  16. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    By God mate, sounds like you, me, Charlie Boy and Capt Sensible all singing from the same sheet!

    Mike
    It looks like the forum now has a choir:D

    Regards
    Tom
     
  17. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    The next exhibit, all others will be quietly withdrawn.

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    :lol:
     
  18. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    The fact that the architects who dared to suggest the plan were subsequently appointed and perhaps more to the point, that the Directors had not clearly stipulated beforehand that the guns were to remain suggests that they weren't overly concerned by the idea of removing them (and of course steel scrap is on the way up again).

    Those guns are museum exhibits, not some bit of aesthetic frippery.

    Giving the tax-exile Foster free range to construct one of his grandiose greenhouses was always going to give rise to ideas intended to disconcert those more interested in substance than style.

    I'd rather be able to see the guns (indeed any guns) than be treated to a style statement intended to preserve the architect and the commissioning director's names on a stone tablet for ever.
     
  19. soren1941

    soren1941 Living in Ypres

    Maybe if they just moved them a little bit, they could then be facing Brixton, I could then blow the crappy place to smithereens
     
  20. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    IWM London does need some kind of tarting up though.
    It's been pretty unimpressive for more than a decade now, some great one-off exhibitions, but most of the collection and it's display is pretty stale & cramped.
    They seem to have walked that difficult path between displaying artifacts and being 'right on' rather uncertainly. And the building hasn't been big enough for ages, some of the exhibitions being squeezed into odd labyrinthine 'corridor' displays, presumably because of space. There's that 'we've got heaps of it round the back' feeling that they couldn't display anywhere near all they'd like to

    Eg.: The science museum went a bit wobbly for a while; too much interpretation and not enough actuality, but they seem to have bounced back of late and are now worth a visit again.
    Maybe it's a sign that the big museums are realising things got a bit vapid for the last few years and that the museum balance between kids/serious/touchy-feely/artifacts/explanation is better understood.
    I'd be as appalled as anyone if the IWM screwed it up royally, but they're not exactly getting it right at the moment anyway - a bit of a new broom might pay off.

    And who knows - they may begin making some connection between the Nazis and WW2 Germany again. Last time we visited we couldn't find a single reference to that connection.
     

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