British aristocracy losses in WW2

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by L J, Sep 5, 2009.

  1. L J

    L J Senior Member

    Remembrance Day is nearing (8 november ? )and maybe it is appropriate to mention the losses (deaths )of the British aristocracy in wwII .The losses of WW I are probably reserved for an other forum . From memory(I can't find my notes ) some names,the list is off-course incomplete,I hope that the members of this forum can add other names . The earl of Erne,Lord Davies,the only son of countess Roberts,the brother of the marquess Cambridge,a son of lord Halifax,a son of A.Eden(later lord Avon ),the Marquess of Lansdowne and his brother,a son of the duke of Grafton,a son of lord Cranborne,the 2nd and 3rd lord Shuttlewoth,a son of the earl of Home,the duke of Devonshire lost a son,a son -in-law and a brother,the duke of Northumberland,the duke of Wellington,the duke of Kent,the duke of Connaught ,the marquess of Dufferin ......
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    The Hon. Lt. Christopher Furness VC, 1st Battalion, Welsh Guards

    Killed near Arras 24th May 1940 and remembered on the Dunkirk Memorial.
     
  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Typing 'Viscount' into the 'Including' box on Geoff's search engine turns up a fair few scions, along with a senior aristo or two:

    Search results for: + viscount. records found: 37
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    001 BAIRD RAG 70789 115 SQDN 14/07/1943 ROYAL AIR FORCE
    002 BENN MJW 103589 21 SQDN 23/06/1944 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    003 BERRY JD 124533 3RD BN 10/10/1944 GRENADIER GUARDS
    004 BROOKE HA 259934 A SQN 10TH ROYAL HUSSARS 17/04/1945 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    005 BYNG G - HMS KONGONI 15/07/1944 ROYAL NAVY
    006 CAIRNS HWJ 38311 CDG 7TH MOTOR BDE GROUP 03/07/1942 GENERAL STAFF
    007 CECIL RHV 1602912 - 12/08/1944 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    008 CLEGG-HILL FR 40864 4TH BN 13/04/1945 KING'S SHROPSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY
    009 COLVILLE CA - HMS HESPERIDES 14/03/1945 ROYAL NAVY
    010 COVENTRY GWRV 7903 7TH BN 27/05/1940 WORCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
    011 CRICHTON JHG 38699 ATTD 12TH ROYAL LANCERS 23/05/1940 ROYAL HORSE GUARDS
    012 CROSS RG 210856 578 FIELD COY 13/05/1944 ROYAL ENGINEERS
    013 DAWSON-DAMER GLS - 600 SQDN 17/04/1944 ROYAL AIR FORCE (AUXILIARY AIR FORCE)
    014 DUNDAS RMSM 79150 1ST LOTHIANS AND BORDER HORSE 05/06/1940 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    015 FAIRWEATHER M - - 04/08/1944 AIR TRANSPORT AUXILIARY
    016 FINCASTLE EDM 37535 4TH BN 05/06/1940 QUEEN'S OWN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
    017 FINDLAY CDC 122485 - 28/08/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    018 FURNESS C 53422 1ST BN 24/05/1940 WELSH GUARDS
    019 GORT JSSPV - AND COMMANDS AND STAFF 31/03/1946 GRENADIER GUARDS
    020 GUINNESS AOE 53827 218 BTY, 55 THE SUFFOLK YEOMANRY ANTI TANK REGT 08/02/1945 ROYAL ARTILLERY
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    021 HAMILTON-RUSSELL AGL 22389 1ST BN 26/05/1940 RIFLE BRIGADE
    022 HAMILTON-RUSSELL DC 94896 1ST ROYAL DRAGOONS 19/04/1943 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    023 HAMILTON-RUSSELL J 52641 1ST THE ROYAL DRAGOONS 19/08/1943 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    024 HAMILTON-RUSSELL GL 41136 - 02/06/1940 GRENADIER GUARDS
    025 HERBERT MH 86326 157 SQDN 23/03/1943 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    026 LONG WRB 77543 2 HAA REGT 26/04/1941 - - 27/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    027 LONG WFD 50864 5TH BN 23/09/1944 COLDSTREAM GUARDS
    028 LOWTHER JA - HMS PRESIDENT 25/08/1942 ROYAL NAVAL VOLUNTEER RESERVE
    029 MAITLAND ICJM 94405 2ND LOTHIANS AND BORDER HORSE 18/01/1943 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    030 MOLESWORTH JVC 73137 ATTD 77TH INDIAN INF BDE 07/06/1943 DUKE OF CORNWALL'S LIGHT INFANTRY
    031 PORTMAN ECB 42507 - 14/07/1942 LIFE GUARDS
    032 PRESTON SET 228338 1ST BN 30/01/1944 IRISH GUARDS
    033 PRESTON JWR 107447 2/4TH BN 09/06/1940 KING'S OWN YORKSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY
    034 SOUTHWELL JM - HMS LANDRAIL 22/12/1944 ROYAL NAVY
    035 STUART DAN 232729 11TH HUSSARS 10/11/1942 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    036 STUART RJO 311623 B SQN, 9TH QUEEN'S ROYAL LANCERS, 17/09/1944 ROYAL ARMOURED CORPS
    037 TRENCHARD H 186879 6TH BN 17/03/1943 GRENADIER GUARDS


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    Other ranks/honours are harder, (Duke, Earl, Baron, etc.) due to their appearance in unit fields etc. No doubt someone has a list somewhere
     
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  4. L J

    L J Senior Member

    Von Poop:thank you very much for this very quick reply,I had to consult page by page the Who was Who 1941-1950 and 1951-1960,it took my hours
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    the Marquess of Lansdowne and his brother,


    Dbf & myself have posted some info & photos of them on this forum.
     
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  6. L J

    L J Senior Member

    Owen,thank you for the information;I think both were killed in Italy .
     
  7. Owen

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  8. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Freddy Lewin, Countess Roberts' son, killed on Chobry when she was bombed Norway, 1940. An account posted under my 1bn Irish Guards thread.
    :: CWGC ::
    Lieutenant FREDERICK ROBERTS ALEXANDER LEWIN 67054, 1st Bn., Irish Guards who died age 25 on 15 May 1940
    Son of Brigadier-General Henry Frederick Elliott Lewin, C.B., C.M.G., D.L., J.P., and of Ada Edwina Stewart Lewin, Countess Roberts, O.B.E., of Ascot, Berkshire.
    Remembered with honour BROOKWOOD MEMORIAL

    From The Times, May 25, 1940:

    Obituary - FALLEN OFFICERS
    MR. F.R.A. LEWIN

    Mr. J.H. Morgan, K.C., writes:-
    Freddy Lewin was greatly loved by all who knew him and he will be deeply mourned not only by the friends of his family, whose hearts go out to his sorrowing parents so sorely stricken, but by many humble folk in the neighbourhood of his beautiful home on the Wiltshire Downs and by many Indians of all classes and of every creed.X The last time I saw him was when, in 1937, I spent a day with him and his batter in Meerut, and the eager welcome he had received in India as the heir to the great name of "Bobs Bahadur" had done nothing to spoil a nature which was utterly unaffected and instinctively modest.X

    The son of a distinguished soldier, the grandson of one Field-Marshal and the godson of another, he had gone into the Army as one dedicated to it and predestine although by no means robust, and, as is so often the case with shy and sensitive spirits, nervous and highly strung.

    He was not only a gallant soldier but a man of intellectual gifts, and he had looked forward, before the shadows of war began to deepen, to exchanging the Army in due course for a political career, for which he had every qualification, and it is tragic to recall that he confided to a friend in those days, now so incredibly remote, his apprehension that his ultimate succession to the peerage would close the door of the House of Commons to his public-spirited hopes and ambitions.

    When the call to arms came he obeyed it cheerfully with "the frolic welcome" with which he always took the thunder no less than sunshine, and it was characteristic of his intrepid spirit that, having been temporarily invalided with a devastating attack of influenza, he rejoined his regiment to face the rigours of service when he was still far from well.X

    Strikingly handsome, with a frank, open countenance, and a most winning charm of manner, Freddy Lewin was one of those whom the gods love.
     
  9. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

  10. L J

    L J Senior Member

    Freddy Lewin, Countess Roberts' son, killed on Chobry when she was bombed Norway, 1940. An account posted under my 1bn Irish Guards thread.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    Also perished in the same incident, The Hon. Brian O'Neill
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    Must check through my list for others, bound to be more

    D
    Thank for the information and the source,I had read that Lewin was killed at Dunkirk .
     
  11. L J

    L J Senior Member

  12. L J

    L J Senior Member

    Some other names :Lord Lytton,Lord Zetland,Lord Bessborough,Lord Swinton, Oliver Lyttelton:all lost a son. The earl of Verulam and Sir Basil Brooke lost 2 sons .It seems that this depressing list is endless .
     
  13. dovermarine

    dovermarine Senior Member

    North, Lord F. G.
    Lord Francis George North, 23157, was a Major in the 144 (The Surrey and Sussex Yeomanry) Field Regiment. He died when he was 39 on 25 August 1940, by stepping on a landmine while out for a stroll. He is buried at Waldershare. His sister, Lady Cynthia Williams, the only daughter of the family, was also killed. Lady North was injured. He was the son of Frederick George North, DL, JP, 8th Earl of Guildford, and of the Countess of Guildford (nee Hargrave Pawson), of Dover, and was the husband of Lady North (nee Burrell), of West Grinstead, Sussex.

    This happened near or on their estate just outside Dover. Derek
     
  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    The Hon. JOHN DOUGLAS BERRY
    Son of James Gomer Berry, 1st Viscount Kemsley, and Lady Gomer Berry, of Dropmore, Buckinghamshire.

    Killed whilst serving in 3 GG in Italy in 1944
     
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    6th Baron BRABOURNE,
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    Killed Italy in 1943 serving 6th Gren Gds

    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    KNATCHBULL, Sir NORTON CECIL MICHAEL
    6th Baron Brabourne of Brabourne. Son of Michael Herbert Rudolph Knatchbull, 5th Baron Brabourne, G.C.S.I., G.C.I.E., M.C., and of Lady Brabourne (nee Browne), Imperial Order of the Crown of India (C.I.), Dame of Grace, Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Westminster, London


    From The Times, Jun 08, 1945:

    Lieut. Lord Brabourne, Grenadier Guards, who was reported missing in March, 1943, is now known to have been shot by the Germans.

    On September 15, 1943, he was in north Italy in a prison train from which he made his escape. Shortly after getting away he was recaptured and the Germans shot him the same day. The Right Hon. Sir Norton Cecil Michael Knatchbull, Bt., sixth Baron Brabourne, Kent, in the peerage of the United Kingdom and fifteenth baronet (England) of Mersham Hatch, was born on February 11 1933, and was educated at Eton. He was the elder son of the fifth Lord Brabourne, Governor first of Bombay and then of Bengal, whose career was cut short by his death at Government House, Calcutta, in February, 1939, at the age of 43. Lieutenant Lord Brabourne's younger brother, Lieutenant the Hon. John Ulick Knatchbull, Coldstream Guards, was born on November 9, 1934.
     
  16. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    3rd Gren Gds , Tunisia
    BRAYBROOKE, 8th Baron
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    NEVILLE, RICHARD HENRY CORNWALLIS

    8th Baron Braybrooke. Elder son of Henry Neville, 7th Baron Braybrooke, M.A., D.L., J.P., and of Dorothy, Lady Braybrooke, of Saffron Walden, Essex. B.A. (Cantab.): Magdalene College. His brother George Robert Latimer Neville also fell.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details


    NEVILLE, The Hon. GEORGE ROBERT LATIMER
    Younger son of Henry Neville, 7th Baron Braybrooke, M.A., D.L., J.P., and of Dorothy Lady Braybrooke, of Saffron Walden, Essex.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    Rank Ordinary Seaman !!!!!
    H.M.S. Picotee
    In memory of the Flower Class Corvette - HMS Picotee (K63).
     
  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Killed serving with 5th Gren Gds in Italy.
    CANNING, VICTOR STRATFORD DE REDCLIFFE
    the Hon.. Son of Leopold Ernest Stratford George Canning, D.L., J.P., 4th Baron Garvagh, and of Lady Garvagh (nee Parker), of Keswick, Cumberland.

    CWGC :: Casualty Details
     
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    killed with 2nd Gren Gds in Normandy.
    CORBETT, The Hon. JOHN POLSON
    Son of Lt.-Col. Thomas Godfrey Polson Corbett, 2nd Baron Rowallan, M.C., T.D., D.L. (formerly of The Royal Scots Fusiliers), and Lady Rowallan, of Rowallan, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.
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  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Killed with 4th Gren Gds in Normandy
    FITZROY, Lord CHARLES OLIVER EDWARD
    Son of Capt. Charles Alfred Euston Fitzroy, J.P., D.L., 10th Duke of Grafton, and the Duchess of Grafton, of Thetford, Norfolk.
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  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Killed serving with 2nd Gren Gds in Belgium , 1944
    FRANK, Sir HOWARD FREDERICK
    2nd Bt. Son of Sir Howard Frank, G.B.E., K.C.B., F.S.I., 1st Bt., and of Lady Frank, of Kensington, London.

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