Adding Images

Discussion in 'Network Information, Suggestions and Feedback' started by frg7700, Jun 28, 2018.

  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    See this image of mine.
    LaW24 | WW2Talk

    File Size: 52.4 KB
    Width: 382px

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  2. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Owen,that would be a THUMBS UP if i could have it has a one off? I do have over (30 headstones) of the North Irish Horse that are at Cassino. It would save me some time. All died on the same day. I've resized them once.

  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    You haven't used the Gallery yet.
  4. Tim091

    Tim091 Active Member

    I too cannot upload pics. I have tried the Upload a File link on the thread:

    1) Get the black and grey box asking me to choose a file (2mb max).
    2) I click Choose File which opens Windows File Explorer.
    3) I select my picture (1.47Mb) and the title of it appears in the black and grey box.
    4) I click Close (the only available button) and just as the dialogue is closing I see it reverts to No File Chosen and nothing happens.

    I created a media album and tried there:

    1) Click Add Media and select Album, select my album.
    2) Click upload an image from your files.
    3) Same process and result as above.

    I have tried different pictures, tried in this thread as well as the thread I was trying to post in.

    Using Chrome on Windows 64.

    Any ideas?
  5. Tim091

    Tim091 Active Member

    ANSWER: okay, solved it. It works fine in Edge, so it is a Chrome problem (or more likely an extension). If I find which one I will post here.
  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    We're currently working on image sizes a bit.
    The forum is a huge bloated thing that's proving difficult to back up as it's several times larger than it ought to be, largely due to needlessly large images. Otto even has to pay for extra drive storage because of its unnecessary size.

    I've now set the maximum image size (as opposed to file size) at 1024x768.
    (Those dimensions may change. More testing needed.)
    There's absolutely nothing anyone needs to do regarding that. Just means the place will now automatically shrink dimensions for things that are uploaded, as long as they're still within the 2mb limit.
    One recent test showed that built-in shrinking can reduce an oversize file by more than 20 times, (1.62mb to 72k) with barely noticeable difference in quality.
    The final result is as small in required storage & as 'viewable' as any web pic needs to be.

    The problem:
    The above should hopefully ameliorate things for anything added from this point onwards.
    However, there's no built-in facility to sweep existing images and get them down to a manageable size. That's a server level Otto job that's gonna require any possible combination of deep thought/plug-ins/paid help/time.

    So... Not yet in a position to absolutely confirm how image etc. allowances will shake out.
    The ideal result is we fix the bloat and nobody notices. Just thought I'd make it known that this stuff's being looked into at the mo.

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  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Bumping this, as I don't really want anybody getting nervous about File sizes.

    To reiterate: From now on, the images are being handled in an entirely acceptable way.
    Nobody need change their image upload habits at all. A settings shift has hopefully sorted that for current & future activity.

    Post stuff as a thumbnail or 'full image' in whatever way you always have.

    The bloated fatty forum issue that's causing problems is one that has to be sorted, but it'll be sorted from the server side of things, hopefully without disturbing users.
    Crack on, chaps. Merely keeping you informed as to why things are currently intermittently a tad tits-up.

    (Documents & sizes are being considered too. Though, again, don't let that affect what you post. We'll get it sorted.)
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  8. Gary Tankard

    Gary Tankard Well-Known Member

    My constructive feedback on this is that the 1024x768 size is too small especially for WDs, citations, maps etc. It makes them unreadable in some cases.

    You should be limiting by file size, not by px - at least then the above can be posted at a lower resolution or jpg quality but can still comfortably read.
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  9. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Limiting by file size doesn't solve the storage issue, which is crushing the basic functions of the site and causing backups etc. To fail.

    The image size conversion shrinks 1mb files by c.20+ times in terms of hosted space.
    1024x768, or what was known as the old 'half HD', ought to be fine if the image was of reasonable quality in the first place, and browsers/devices do have zoom functions if it's a bit crunchy.

    Reasonable chance of the image size being upped one day to 1920x1080 full HD once we've sorted the still-extant file heap, but it's never going beyond that with hosting prices being what they are.
    What I'd like to do is raise the mb upload size but still compress the image size, which should mean hassle free uploads with the best-for-the-site storage.
    Both those options are going to require quite a bit of testing. The 1080 gives 'not bad' file sizes, but the increased allowed file size could overstress the server.

    I'm afraid we're not changing anything yet, though, since we're waiting to upgrade to the next iteration of the forum software & image handling options might be different/better(/worse!?).
    The Catch 22 is that the upgrade can't happen until the forum backs up as quickly and cleanly as it should, rather than taking half a day like it is now... the fatty.
  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Occurs that some might not be familiar with zooming in on non-mobile browsers.
    So, just in case, with apologies if egg-sucking:

    For Chrome & Firefox: Hold Ctrl & use the mouse wheel.
    On Chrome, a dialogue box opens to show zoom level & reset, FF the same appears in the URL bar (just click the % to reset to standard view).

    No idea how it works on Apple.
  11. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    If you don't have a mouse wheel you can Hold CTRL and use the + and - keys to do the same thing.
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  12. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Clive's getting an issue where image uploads are always doubling up - uploading twice.
    Anybody else seeing similar behaviour here?
    I've not had anything like that, so only others getting the same can confirm whether he needs to try clearing caches etc.
  13. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Thank you Adam, cleared everything but still happening

    upload_2021-6-10_22-48-56.png upload_2021-6-10_22-48-56.jpeg
  14. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    very odd
    now uploading 2 but then says

    The following error occurred:
    The uploaded file is too large.
    then uploads one

  15. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Just testing:

    Edit: Seems OK
  16. gash hand

    gash hand Well-Known Member

    Hello Adam On 12 June, late afternoon/early evening I loaded 4 photos re Avro Lancaster DV233 which then also uploaded twice like Clive, I deleted them and successfully uploaded just the 4 the 2nd time.
    I haven't got a clue what happened, not being computer savvy. Cache was cleared the day previous to uploading photos. Richard
  17. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin


    Don't suppose you're on the same service provider, or both using the same browser?
  18. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Just to add:

    I am certainly not on the same ISP as either of them, but I got a similar glitch.

    One of my several images didn't upload twice, but it did insert twice--once where I wanted it and a second time at the end of the post after my text.

    I clicked 'Insert: Full Image' once, yet two inserts turned up.

    cartoon pont2.jpg

    (Edit: no such problem this time).
  19. gash hand

    gash hand Well-Known Member

    I am on chrome on Mac. I have cleared the cache several more times this a.m. then I uploaded 1 photo in wild live in my garden section and
    it remained at 1 photo so far so good. Richard
  20. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    The most I can do for now is run a full post and image cache refresh on the site. Freshen things up a bit.

    Don't be surprised if things go a bit peculiar/slow very late tonight.
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