Discussion in 'Higher Formations' started by PsyWar.Org, Jan 11, 2013.
Hi Markos, I'll send you a PM about the 30 Corps war diaries.
Current status of copied 30 Corps war diaries:
WO 171/336, G. (1944 June) - Pak75
WO 171/337, G. (1944 July) - Pak75, Tom OB
WO 171/338, G. Apps. (1944 July) - Pak75, Tom OB
WO 171/339, G. (1944 Aug.) - Pak75, Tom OB
WO 171/340, G. Apps. (1944 Aug.) - Pak75, Tom OB
September 1944 COMPLETED
WO 171/342, G. (1944 Oct.) -
WO 171/343, G. Apps. (1944 Oct.) -
WO 171/344, G. (1944 Nov.) -
WO 171/345, G. Apps. (1944 Nov.) -
WO 171/346, G. (1944 Dec.) -
WO 171/4075, G.S. (1945 Jan.) - Stolpi
February 1945 COMPLETED
March 1945 COMPLETED
WO 171/4079, G.S. (1945 Apr.) -
May 1945 COMPLETED
I am wondering whether the 30 Corps before going to the Ardennes say December 1944 could have been at Geulle lying at the river Meuse, north of Maastricht.
51st Highland Division was in that area from about 22 until 25 December 44.
Thanks a lot!
The question is now whether between them a Jorma was at or near Oostbroek 1 at Geulle then.
The books found "WAR DIARY OF THE FIFTH SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS, 51ST HIGHLAND DIVISION" & "THE HISTORY OF THE 51st HIGHLAND DIVISION" could give a clue.
Maybe the National Archives in London have more documents.
5 Seaforth Highlanders were at the following locations:
Cortryck-Dutzel 22nd Dec
Albeek 24th Dec
Les Cours 26th Dec
Liege 30th Dec
War Diary of the Fifth Seaforth Highlanders, 51st Highland Division
Could the units at Geulle these days just before Christmas 1944 be derived from this diary?
Or from another source?
After discussions the data on the Jorma I was named after, should be as follows.
How to find this serviceman?
Last name unknown. It could be something with HM, anglicized from e.g. Heinoniemi = hay peninsula. Then would be possible: Hayman, Heiman.
Born ±1917 in Canada, Saskatchewan or Manitoba.
Father before migrated from Finland, viz. Heinoniemi, Kitee, North Karelia. Or from Eura, West Finland.
Mother is from Scotland.
Died ±1972, age ±56
Length 1,85 à 1,90 m
Slim, pretty skinny
Right lower leg wounded. Sonething like a drop foot
Very nice. Very human.
Sense of justice ~Sagittarius
Several times promoted. Higher officer.
51st (Highland) Division (not Canadian?)
Family tradition in the army. In Finland I suppose.
Who knows more about the following:
26th July1944 the 51st got a new commander. A large number of other officers were replaced, probably around that time. Details??
1st August 1944 the 51 st became part of the First Canadian Army.
Xmas 1944 they were part of the 30th Corps in the Ardennes.
Suppose "my" Jorma was in the Canadian Army and around August 1944 he became part of the 51st (Highland) Division and was before Xmas around Maastricht, say Geulle.
It seems that this Jorma around May 1944 went over from the Canadian Army to the 51st (Highland) Division.
The original Finnish surname could be:
(in our script Hamalainen). With cyrillic you could get
The name was anglicized.
I found a candidate:
Capt. J.H. Chamberlain
in the Canadian 10th Armoured Regiment (Fort Garry Horse)
27th May 1944 he went to the hospital.
Was he injured at his leg?
Did he go to the 51st?
Are the Diaries for Sept '44 still available?
No problem JB, will drop you a line through Twitter about it.
Sept 44 diaries still available? How much?
Should be able to dig it out from an old hard drive. Will send you a PM about it.
Like to join: Sept 44 diaries still available? And how much?
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