Discussion in 'The Holocaust' started by Steve hiscox, Feb 1, 2020.
That's everything I have here...apart from the maps
Hi Steve, I have looked through all the documents you have posted. This is what I have found. anything with a question mark is a guess on the word !
17/12/42 - 26/1/1946 Posted with General Service Corps
27/1/43 Transferred to the Royal Artillery and posted to Survey Wing
Inter posted from No 2 Troop? Battery to Larkhill Depot Battery W.E.F. (With Effect From) 22/3/43
Posted to 7th Survey Regiment R.A. Larkhill W.E.F 18/5/43
Embarked to Europe 18/6/44 with 7th Survey Regiment
Disembarked North West Europe 25th/26th 6/44
1/1/1945 made a None Commissioned Officer, unpaid and paid Acting Lance Bombardier
Embarked to UK 4/9/1945
Posted to Dept? of R.A. FIELD. reclassified Class 1A (Rank D) 15/1/1946 UK
Posted to 92 A/J Regiment (Gunner) 3/2/46 UK
Posted to HS this? unit from 92 'B' Battery R.A. (Gunner) 3/2/46 UK
S.O.S (Struck of Strength)? "Struck off strength" is army speak for having a soldier's name taken of the nominal roll of a unit)) and posted to 288 Field Battery R.A. 14/4/46
S.O.S on posting to 24 R.A. Training Regiment 9/7/46 There is a mention that he was a Junior None Commissioned Officer during this time 11/10/46
During his time in North West Europe relates to 7th Survey Regiment with some reference to XII Corps which Timuk has already mentioned. "Liberation" of Belsen relates to VIII Corps.
Answer would be no then just family embellished history as with many others
Ours is my Grandfather was a Featherweight boxing champion during his service ! ! !
Thankyou for so much hard work in all your digging through everything for me .
As I said originally, it was due to wanting to know the truth as to whether this passed down story was true or a fable and as all everyone's digging around has found ...its a no
Many many thanks
This is a coloured photocopy of the original map
It is so difficult to comprehend the scale of the atrocity. As mentioned, on this thread, it seems the whole british army passed through Belsen.
It was certainly, a ‘destination’ of service personnel to see first hand the site.
My grandfather, a commercial signwriter, serving with the 113th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment made and painted the famous twin gate signs (one in English and one in German) plus all the signs to mark the mass graves. Consequently I have an archive of the signs and all manner of personnel including RAF and Navy seemed to have visited the site and had their photos taken there.
Subsequently, I believe, many service personnel have said they were ‘at Belsen’, which was almost certainly true albeit the dates of their visit is often cloudy.
From Durham Record Office:
On 12 April 1945, following the successful Rhine crossing by the British Second Army, the 113th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, The Royal Artillery received orders to move to Belsen. In the words of The Regimental Journal of The Durham Light Infantry [volume 4, number 23, October 1946, page 80], 'the wrong map reference was given, no-one had heard of the place, and it appeared to be about 250 miles away inside enemy held territory'.
Nevertheless, the Regiment moved 100 miles to Osnabruk, west of Hanover, Germany, where their task was confirmed: to take over and administer the concentration camp at Belsen, near Celle, Germany, where the electricity and water supply had failed, food was scarce and disease raged.
A truce was negotiated with the local German Army Commander, who wanted to prevent the spread of disease from the camp, and the Regiment arrived at Belsen on 18 April 1945.
I think your right, I definitely think word got around about Belsen. Here's a extract out of 220 Battery War Diary (112th Wessex).
“I spent three hours on the 22nd April 1945 amongst 50-60,000 beings who appeared and who were sub-human; three ghastly unnerving hours amongst piles of mutilated, terribly emaciated, rag strewn corpses; amongst huts where dead and living lie thickly together; where the majority, starved in the extreme are more dead than alive; amongst thousands of other worldly, remote men, women and children who without surprise, with all hope gone, from white, hollow eyed faces – totter in filthy rags over the befouled mud past naked, foul corpses; where the air is full of the smell of death.
Very apt..thanks for taking the time to post
Many thanks. So we have five of 1SAS, including as ever a Canadian!, in the camp. Moreover, Reg Seekings, in clunking the SAS, and then Tonkin commanding the situation, take control, it is Reg who liberated Belsen! Until that point nobody had bothered to tell the bastards to stop doing it.
Celle, which is central to the story, became a key airport for Luneberg Heath. Belsen was slap bang on the path 11th Division were taking. The whole division almost literally drove past it.
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