R.A.C Trooper service record query

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by Steve Fuller, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member


    I have been able to get back to my own family at last and started to pull my Grandfather;s service record apart.

    Does the bold element of the following entry make sense to anyone please:
    18 April 1944 ‘Service, Trade and Classification’ entry T.T. [ins?] STD G.M. C III; ‘Part II Order’ 2 Lothians 800/144.

    (For context, this is 2 Lothian & Border Yeomanry, 6 Armoured Division in Italy)

    More queries to follow presumably, so apologies in advance!!
  2. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member


    Experience tells members that it is always best to have sight of original documents before offering an opinion.

    Could you post an image of the queried document please?

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  3. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    I like this forum already! Attached, as requested

    Attached Files:

  4. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    And this is the one with the specific phrase I am referring to

    Attached Files:

  5. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    Apologies, uploaded in the wrong order and am unable to edit now - first one is to put the second one into context :wacko:
  6. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member


    Thanks for attaching both sides of the Army Form B102.

    The queried entry means that he passed a Trade Test and was mustered as a Gunner Mechanic Class 3 on 18th April 1944. The qualification was recorded in his unit Part II Orders.

    Did you receive any Army B103 forms? The B103 entries usually amplify the shorthand abbreviated entries in the B102.

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  7. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    1939 REGISTER
    48 Rothschild Road, Linslade U.D., Buckinghamshire
    Name - DOB - Occupation - Marital status
    Stanley J Fuller - 16 Nov 1906 - Bus Driver - Married
    Annie E Fuller - 03 Mar 1910 - Unpaid Domestic Duties - Married
    The record for this person is officially closed.
    Herbert John Fuller - 18 Mar 1934 - At School - Single
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  8. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    Hi Tullybrone,

    Thanks for the Gunner info; are you able to expand on what the 'skill' meant in terms of his daily life and duties please? (I'll Google too of course!)

    Annoyingly, there's no B103 Casualty form in the papers I'm afraid; presumably weeded or lost as he was wounded and had Malaria for the rest of his life, so I expected to see entries and movements

    The Statement of Services, Military History sheet and attestation sheets have no reference to the trade or date either. :blank:
  9. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    Yep, that's them harkness. Spent the first 15 years of my life in that house
  10. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member


    Shame about the missing documents.

    Sorry I’ve no additional information. Try the forum search function. Forum member & ex RAC veteran Ron Goldstein might be able to help you further.

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  11. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    Thanks Steve, I certainly will
  12. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Presumably these are the records you obtained from MoDUK. Have you been back to them and asked them to recheck for the B103? It is not unknown for them to miss out forms when sending out the records.

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  13. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member


    A few more things which might be useful

    55th Training Regiment RAC – Farnborough, closed 1945

    52nd Training Regiment RAC – RTR Depot, Bovington, closed 1945

    “Jaw 1943” – Probably “Jan 1943” ties in with him going to NA.

    1 General Base Depot

    2 L & B Btn – 26th Armd Bde – 6th Armd Div – North Africa & Italy

    RAC X4 list - reinforcement in transit

    TD RAC – RAC Training Depot (Italy). Training Depot | The National Archives

    No hits on FMP British Army Casualty Lists for service number or name. So probably never wounded.

    SOS – Struck Off Strength

    NA – North Africa

    CMF – Central Mediterranenan Force Greece

    MEF - Middle East Force – 1946 Might be Palestine

    Hope this helps

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  14. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

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  15. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    No I havent Tim, good shout, thank you
  16. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    Yes, the other one has all of the detail so is probably the better of the 2
  17. Steve Fuller

    Steve Fuller Junior Member

    Really useful, thanks Gus
  18. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Can a Mod merge the two threads please.


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