New CWGC Commemorations 12th January 2016

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  1. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    CWGC added the following casualties to the WW2 War Dead Roll today.

    BROWN, Harry
    Diver’s Linesman Age 24
    McGAHAN, John
    Able Seaman Diver Age 31
    WILLS, Philip
    Ordinary Seaman Age 17
    Merchant Navy, M.V. Dutch Lady
    Died 12.12.44
    Commemorated: Tower Hill Memorial, London

    NOT FORGOTTEN

    The above were In From the Cold Project cases.

    - Merchant Seamen Brown, McGahan and Wills died in an explosion during salvage operations at sea (Volunteer: Chris Harley)
     
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  2. Billy McGee

    Billy McGee Senior Member

    I submitted Philip Wills name to the CWGC several years ago and it was rejected by the Commission. I found all three men listed in the Deaths at Sea register from April 1945, but did not submit the other two men as I was only dealing Merchant Navy casualties at the time and believed the other two (without checking) would be automatically commemorated as members of the armed forces. Dutch-Lady-DASR.jpg
     
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  3. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    There is now evidence that 4 bodies were recovered from the explosions. One was RAF. Therefore I will be checking for graves in the Poole area.
     
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  4. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Well Done, Chris. Brave men doing a dangerous job.

    Are CWGC becoming more amenable in general ?
     
  5. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Not CWGC as such, but the people who carry the acceptances for the former Board of Trade whoever they are
     
  6. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    BROWN, HARRY
    Rank:
    Diver's Linesman
    Date of Death:
    12/12/1944
    Age:
    24
    Regiment/Service:
    Merchant Navy
    M.V. Dutch Lady (Southampton)
    Panel Reference:
    Addenda Panel
    Memorial:
    TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
    Grave Found Parkstone Cemetery.
     
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  7. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    BROWN, HARRY
    Rank:
    Diver's Linesman
    Date of Death:
    12/12/1944
    Age:
    24
    Regiment/Service:
    Merchant Navy
    M.V. Dutch Lady (Southampton)

    Commemoration Moved to Poole Parkstone Cemetery. He will be receiving a new headstone.
     
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  8. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Able Seaman (Diver)McGAHAN, JOHN
    Died 11/12/1944

    Aged 31

    M.V. Dutch Lady (Southampton)
    Merchant Navy

    Grave Found Larne Cemetery.
     
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  9. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Commemoration now moved.
     
  10. Billy McGee

    Billy McGee Senior Member

    Does anyone have any information on who owned the Dutch Lady, tonnage etc. and where was she lost please. I am writing a book "The Sea is Their Grave" giving reference to every ship recorded on the WWII section of the Tower Hill Memorial.

    The-Sea-is-Their-Grave-Cove.jpg
     
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  11. Hugh MacLean

    Hugh MacLean Senior Member

    Hi Billy,
    It is my understanding that the mv DUTCH LADY was not lost in the incident. The sunken aircraft exploded while the on-board depth charges were being recovered
    Short Sunderland Mk III ML782 crashed when landing in Plymouth Sound in December 1944.

    Some details of the incident here but no mention of the ship: Short Sunderland Mk III ML782

    She was the m.v. DUTCH LADY built in 1913, Raamsdonhsveer, Holland. Port of Registry Southampton. Date of Registry 15 April 1937. 84 Gross tons. Owners in 1940 were Alan T. Tamplin, Green World Farm, Organford, Poole Dorset.

    Regards
    Hugh
     
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  12. Billy McGee

    Billy McGee Senior Member

    Thanks Hugh, much appreciated as ever.
     
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