German Forum called Feldpost Community

Discussion in 'Axis Units' started by Bob Wilton, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. Bob Wilton

    Bob Wilton Junior Member

    There is a German run forum called Feldpost Community.The contrubutors seem to be very pro National Socialists and seem to glorify in the Third Reich,and many posts are in denial that the Holocaust and other atrocities carried out by the German military in WW2 ever took place.It appears to me that this forum is trying to convince people that the allies faked all the films and photographs to give Germany a bad name.If you try and post films or pictures of the liberation of the death camps by the Allies the administrator will delete them,and if you try to put them on again they will block you.Please can the members of this forum take a look at the German site to see what you think about it.Your comments would be very much appreciated.The forum is on Facebook.
     
  2. Bernard85

    Bernard85 WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    good day bob wilton.j.m.today.01:50am.re:german forum called feldpost community.wake up young man.the germans allways denie being a nazy,they never ever knew what went on in the death camps,they are bloody liars.and futher more they would.given half a chance.do it all again.never trust a krawt,a good nazy is a dead nazy.best regards bernard85
     
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  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    What I think, is that the internet is full of much strangeness, and that I could link you to a hundred such sites or pages.
    But I also think, that we're not really a platform for stirring up wasp's nests. Because when you mention them directly, they will come, leading to dealing with denialist nonsense rather than getting on with chatting about more interesting or useful stuff.
    Happy to deal with 'em when they do roll up, but would rather not invite them.
    Report to Friendface, or just look away - they'll pop up again whatever happens. See YouTube or any other system for a similar slew of Muppets - it's the internet.

    And, Bernard,
    There are German members here along with people who have German friends, spouses, partners, heritage etc. etc.
    You're obviously entitled to your opinions, mate - but keep ' em to yourself when they spill over into direct abuse of some innocent denizens here.
    I have many German mates, and am reasonably sure none of them has ever filled a mass grave...
     
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  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Bob as vP states the internet is full of this sort of stuff and best steer clear of it.Members on this forum know exactly the type of sites that are out there.I would suggest just be aware and don't drag yourself in to their arena.

    I use the "we" run a tight ship here figure headed by vP and the admin team.When the odd strange one turns up they are welcomed as is everyone but like a fruit pastille in the mouth they (denial member) cant resist and soon start chewing away.

    So

    1 A denial joins (we don't know this at the time) and starts a thread or comments on a current thread.
    2 They are Welcomed
    3 A read between the line denial comment is made by the new member
    4 Forum members join in
    5 Thread goes toxic based on the denial comment
    6 The denial member leaves
    7 Bugger all gained
    8 Thread either closed or left open
    9 If left open go back to point 1


    The above works both ways on the internet

    Regards
    Clive
     
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  5. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    You mean pith helmets, don't you ? :P
     
  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Maybe.
    :unsure:
     
  7. Bob Wilton

    Bob Wilton Junior Member

    I have many German friends and go to Germany quite often,twice this year actually in the Rhineland.These friends were brought up in Western Germany and find what their country did repulsive.This forum is run from the old East Germany where the Germans were brought up in a communist state.These same people are neo Nazi's and are using Facebook to promote it .I am not a kid myself but,an old aged pensioner and an ex soldier so I know what I am talking about.
     
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  8. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    As a kraut-mick I'm well used to being tarred with the same brush as some of the eejits I share this world with: it's the way the knee-jerk part of human nature works. My outlook now is rather dull I'm afraid - If some people believe and support the idea that everyone of German blood is a rabid nazi waiting for their next chance, well, there's no stopping that kind of slap in the face of logic. Their problem.



    As for the original post - Bob my immediate reaction to it was: what a shame your first one on the forum had to be about that.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

    It's hard to keep to that, believe me I know from experience, but sometimes it just makes more sense. As VP says, report them to the host and/or move on. The truth is also 'out there'.
    And on here. ;) Hope you'll add to it.
     
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  9. Bob Wilton

    Bob Wilton Junior Member

    Hi DBF,As I said I have many German friends in Germany who come from all walks of life and we all get on very well together.A new friend whom I met in Berlin in May this year turned out to be a contributor to the forum,so I deleted him and his girlfriend from my friends list.I blame Facebook for giving these neo Nazi's a platform to promote their poison.
     
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  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    But you might as well blame the telephone, Bob.
    It's all just comms, and some sites are so vast now it's nearly impossible to spot everything, even without the exceptionally tricky arena of freedom of speech. liberties etc. being part of their equation.

    I and others chase off neos etc. here - it being our little toyshop we can set the local rules - but it must be so much harder for the big boys, particularly when you throw in assorted laws and variances thereof country by country. Not easy at all..
    I mentioned Youtube, as I regard much of it as a cess pit of unpleasantness, but I still watch videos on it. It's a medium more than a stated position that can be held wholly responsible for it's content, much like all the other massive soshul meeja sites.
     
  11. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    No explanation required Bob. The earlier section of my response was not directed at your post.

    I don't belong to f/b or similar, my choice, def not my scene... but the thing about blaming the host - the pitfalls of offering a platform to all-comers - is that we get our share of idiots here too. Not our fault. The forum gets rid of as soon as they show their true colours and/or if they are reported...
     
  12. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Adam

    You are doing very well today, way up to your usual standard, on interesting words! I thought I was pretty well read but still had to look up 'denizens'....and now 'soshul meeja' but that one doesn't seem to be in the dictionary.

    Kind regards
    Gloria Smorning.........pmsl
     
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  14. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran Patron

    I sometimes find it tricky, when posting, to decide whether or not I am on the "right" thread to make what I consider is a pertinent comment.

    As in this case, when the thread seemed to have developed into a Fawty Towers type of "let's not be beastly to the Germans" and young Bernard is severely knuckle rapped for making fairly pithy remarks concerning anyone calling himself a German.

    I write, not in this case anyway, to defend Bernard, he is after all old enough to defend himself, but to merely to offer my own thoughts on the subject.

    As some of you may remember, in 2012 I paid a visit to Durnbach in Germany to pay my respects at my late brother Jack's grave site.

    I had not been back to Germany since 1945 and I was pleased at the time to have my wife alongside me despite her understandable bitterness towards Germany and her previous reluctance to visit neighbouring Austria where I had also been stationed.

    I found my return to Germany strange in many ways but I honestly felt no animosity whatsoever to any one I met, working on the premise that nearly everyone I met on the trip was too young to have participated in the ghastly horrors of wartime Germany.

    The rather odd exception was at breakfast one morning when there was someone of a similar age group to myself dining alone and I found myself wondering what, if any, wartime monstrosities he might have been guilty of !

    After returning home, I came across a striking poem, written by Jeremy Robson that seemed to echo exactly my own thoughts on the subject and I offer it again for your consideration.

    Vigil
    by Jeremy Robson

    I don't accuse,
    Am on my guard,
    that's all.

    I won't forget they tried
    To wipe my broken
    people
    from the earth- no,
    not them, of course, too
    young, their fathers or their
    fathers' fathers-not even
    them, perhaps.
    Be fair.

    They might who knows,
    have been among those
    righteous brave who
    in reaching out their hands
    sealed their own fate,
    or simply those who turned
    away, afraid. Perhaps.
    Impossible to conceive
    the fear, the shadows of
    the night, the bootsteps
    on the stair.

    Now a lifetime later,
    alone beneath the Bahnhoffs
    amber lights, incessant
    rain machine-gunning the
    roofs grim glass, I tell
    myself the hordes
    I watch there, fighting
    their way towards the waiting
    trains-achtung-late for
    work or hurrying home,
    that they could not

    themselves have heard
    the shots, the muzzled
    cries, the dogs, the
    clank, clank, clank
    of the nightrnare trucks
    departing on cue for their
    one way journey to Hell
    (from which of these Platforms
    I wonder-one ,two?)

    and that looking back
    aghast, perhaps, at those black
    Wagnerian scenes, history
    to them, however obscene,
    that they, contrite perhaps,
    would wash their hands
    in innocence at night-
    not like some demented Lady
    Macbeth, scrub scrub
    scrubbing
    to expunge the dead, as
    those accursed others should.
    Sins of the fathers
    heavy on their head.
    Be fair.

    And yet, and yet..
    It's seventy years since
    That war began, but if
    I, a Jew, scion
    Of that haunted race,
    forget, who will remember,
    and if none remembers, the
    dead are truly dead.

    I don't accuse,
    Am on my guard,
    that's all.
     
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  15. Bob Wilton

    Bob Wilton Junior Member

    Hi Ron,I have heard of you many times before.I am a WW2 Bomber Command researcher and have read many of your posts.My brother in laws dad died with RAF 166 Squadron over Berlin.I went to Durnbach in May to take some photographs of RAF grave markers.I also served in 6th Armoured but many years after you.
     
  16. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Well I for one am glad to have been told about what kind of racial flaws I exhibit, and I will hasten to pass this on to my 3-year old daughter, who as a German/Italian can (once she's old enough to understand it) then feel bad for not only being guilty of the Holocaust, but also of the ill-treatment of the Senussi and Ethiopians at the hands of Il Duce's troops. It's like 'buy one, get one guilt issue free'.

    Forever grateful. No, really.

    All the best

    Andreas
     
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  17. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran Patron

    Bob

    Welcome aboard !

    Go to the main PORTAL and use the search box to key in 166 Squadron or simply Bomber Command.

    Much to be found on this site to interest you as a Bomber Command researcher.

    Ron
     
  18. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    ​It's an oft-visited theme but most mentions of it still genuinely perplex me. "Sins of the fathers" does not and never has weighed heavy on my head.

    I've never understood the invocation in this type of context (whether it's suggested or self-imposed), of a concept grounded in bibles most often drawn from one of the perspectives within those scriptures. It’s my understanding that the term covers either the keeping/breaking of a covenant of faith with God (yes, later generations are born guilty - to the third or fourth generation, see Exodus) or criminal/legal matters (no, the guilt remains solely with the perpetrator, see Ezekiel).
     
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  19. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Ron

    Thanks a lot for posting this. That would sum up my feelings on the matter too, even though I am neither Jewish, nor have been in the war.

    All the best

    Andreas
     
  20. Bob Wilton

    Bob Wilton Junior Member

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