Anomaly in Field Battery Self Propelled

Discussion in 'Trux Discussion Area' started by Derek Barton, Jul 11, 2021.

  1. Derek Barton

    Derek Barton Senior Member

    The section for an M7 Priest Battery shows 2 signals Halftracks in the Gun Group in each Troop. These have the Tac Signs M2 & M5 in A Troop & M3 & M5 in B Troop. All other WE's for both towed & SP batteries show these as M2 & M4 in A Troop which makes more sense than having 2 M5's. M4 is shown as a signals Halftrack in the BHQ Party. Other WE's show only 1 signals vehicle in BHQ - M1.
    Also the Personnel & Transport sections list 24 signalers & 6 Halftracks on establishment. Adding up the numbers in the Organisation section shows 28 signalers & 17 Halftracks. First, I think the 6 Halftracks is a typo for 16 Halftracks. If the M4 vehicle is removed and assigned to A Troop, this leaves 16 Halftracks & removing its crew of 4 signalers leaves the correct number of 24.
    Does this make sense & does anyone have any hard evidence either way.
    Derek
     
  2. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    Hi Derek,

    Which particular WE are you looking at? There are a few for SP Regts using the M7, the more detailed ones being II/189/1 and /2 and VIII/515/1 and /2.

    I'm afraid none of the WEs show the Tac signs and vehicle numbers. I finally added a few RA Training Pamphlets to my PDF collection this year, and the only ones including vehicle numbers are for the 1938 and 1941 versions of the Field Regt. I've not seen n equivalent for the later war SP Regts.

    Gary
     
  3. Derek Barton

    Derek Barton Senior Member

    The one I am querying is WE II/189/1 August 1943 in the Trux artillery section. The only SP WE I have with Tac Signs to compare to is II/190A/2 June 1944 for the Sexton.
    Derek
     
  4. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    The full WE for II/189/1 shows a total of 18 'trucks, 15-cwt, 4x4, half-tracked' in the 105-mm SP Regt. There are two in each Bty HQ and one in each Sec of two SP guns. The two half-tracks in Bty HQ are with the Admin portion, each carrying 44 rounds. Distribution of signallers is 14 in Bty HQ and five in each Troop HQ (total 24 per Bty). Wireless trucks are 4x2 15-cwts, supplement by AOPs.

    The 1941 WE is given with Tac Signs in Pam 2B of late 1941. That shows M2 (A Tp) and M3 (B Tp) with the "G" Party, M1 (Bty HQ) and M4 (A Tp) with Bty HQ, and M5 (B Tp) with the Gun Group. I appreciate they are two different orgs for different times.

    Gary
     
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  5. Derek Barton

    Derek Barton Senior Member

    Gary,
    Thanks for the information, things make more sense now.
    Derek
     

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