2nd Canadian Divisional Infantry Reinforcement Unit (2 CDIRU)

Discussion in 'Canadian' started by st helena, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. st helena

    st helena Junior Member

    Hi,
    Can any one help me please? My cousin Pte George Stuart (from B.C. in Canada) enlisted in the Irish Fusilier (Vancouver Regiment) in 1940, he was in this regiment till June 1942 when he transferred over to the " 2nd Canadian Divisional Infantry Reinforcement Unit (2 CDIRU) ". When he sailed on the 14th June 1942 from Halifax Canada,and embarked in the UK on about the 24th June 1942.
    I trying to find a War Diary(if there is one?) of the above unit (2nd CDIRU) until when Pte George Stuart was transferred to the Calgary Highlander on the 4th Dec 1942! or any other Information,photos,etc on the above unit Please!
    He was wounded on the 8th Aug 1944 near Caens in France,and was transferred to a hospital in the UK,on the 13th Aug 44. On the 29th Sept 44,he was transferred to the 1st CIRU ? then on the 18th Nov 1944 he was transferred to the CITR till the 12th June 1945,when he went back to Canada with the Calgary Highlanders! I was told by a family member some years ago that George was traing with the
    Commandoes? (sorry about the spelling).
    Is there anyone out there please who can tell me what were the "CIRU & CITR " were? and are there any history or War Diaries on them Please?:confused:
    I do have Pte/Cpl/Sgt George Stuart Army Records from Canada,but most of it that is writen down I can't understand the some of the numbers?
    Plus trying to find out were & what hospitals he was in? I would like to thank you ahead of any help any one may give!
    I would be very grateful for any help! Thanks!:)
     
  2. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member Patron

    St. Helena,

    Lots of experts here to help with your research.
    The first thing you should do is post his service number and his war records.
    In a matter of minutes, the experts on this great forum will be able to answer most of your questions.

    Cheers from Toronto
     
  3. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    St Helena

    CIRU = Cdn Infantry reinforcement unit

    CITR = Cdn Infantry Training Regt.

    Cheers
     
  4. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    St. Helena:

    I will have some more detailed information for you over the next few days. Basically the 2nd Canadian Divisional Infantry Reinforcement Unit (2 CDIRU) drew a platoon from all home defence units in Canada in order to reinforce the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division after its losses at Dieppe. In fact, these platoons were generally referred to as the 'Dieppe Platoons'. I have pages from the war diary of the Irish Fusiliers regarding the formation of the platoon within the battalion, which I will post.

    As you noted, he went to the Calgary Highlanders, which is a 2nd Canadian Infantry Division unit. After being wounded and recovered he was placed with the 1st Canadian Infantry Reinforcement Unit, as Tom stated, to get him back to action. Possibly based on his experience, he was sent to the Canadian Infantry Training Regiment in England in November 1944.

    Again I will sent more details in the near future.
     
  5. st helena

    st helena Junior Member

    Hi,
    Thank you very much for your kind help! I attach Pte/Cpl/Sgt George Stuart (K67754) Canadian Army Papers from his part in WW2.
    All the joy in helping to make them out for me Please! Plus to find out
    what military hospitals he was in? & where were they if possible?
    I will put some more of George;s Army Records on after this Message!

    All The Best
    And Thanks!:)
     
  6. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Here are the pages from the Irish Fusiliers War Diary that refer to the June 1942 overseas draft. Home service battalions were constantly supplying drafts for overseas units from this point on. Active service personnel were selected since home service personnel, variously called "R" or "HD" members were cajoled to go active.
     

    Attached Files:

  7. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Here are the locations for the Irish Fusiliers up to June 1942:


    Command
    HQ Vancouver Defences 26/8/39 - 25/6/40
    HQ Prince Rupert Defences 26/6/40 - 22/2/41
    HQ Pacific Command 22/2/41 - 24/2/41
    HQ Vancouver Defences 24/2/41 - 7/5/41
    HQ Military District No. 11 7/5/41 - 18/6/41
    HQ Victoria-Esquimalt Fortress 18/6/41 - 10/10/41
    HQ 13th Canadian Infantry Brigade 10/10/41 - 18/3/42
    HQ Vancouver Defences 18/3/42 - 22/9/42

    Location
    Vancouver, British Columbia 26/8/39 - 7/5/40
    North Vancouver, British Columbia 7/5/40 - 12/6/40
    Vancouver, British Columbia 12/6/40 - 25/6/40
    Prince Rupert, British Columbia 26/6/40 - 22/2/41
    In transit 22/2/41 - 24/2/41
    Westminster Camp, New Westminster, BC 24/2/41 - 7/5/41
    Camp Nanaimo, British Columbia 7/5/41 - 13/6/41
    In transit 13/6/41 - 18/6/41
    Parsons Bridge Camp, Esquimalt, BC 18/6/41 - 19/7/41
    Colwood Camp, British Columbia 19/7/41 - 10/10/41
    Camp Nanaimo, British Columbia 10/10/41 - 18/3/42
    Seaforth Camp, Vancouver, BC 18/3/42 - 22/9/42 - Seaforth Armouries
     
  8. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member Patron

    St.Helena,
    On the left hand side of the ww2talk home page is a link to 'abbreviations'. This will help you learn more about his movements throughout his stay in the army.
    Good luck.
     
  9. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Here is the best I can do with the service record. I hope that it helps:


    Summary of Service - George Stuart

    17/7/40 - Date of Enlistment - Service #K67754. Posted to 1st Battalion, Irish Fusiliers (Vancouver Regiment, CASF - 'B' Company. TOS (Taken on Strength) at Vancouver.
    23/7/40 - Attached to District Recruit Training Depot at Esquimalt, BC
    20/8/40 - Admitted to Esquimalt Military Hospital (Sick)
    26/8/40 - Discharged from Esquimalt Military Hospital
    28/8/40 - Ceased to be attached to District Recruit Training Depot
    23/9/40 - Admitted to Prince Rupert Station Hospital (Sick)
    27/9/40 - Discharged from Prince Rupert Station Hospital
    20/1/41 - Admitted to Prince Rupert Station Hospital (Sick)
    1/2/41 - Discharged from Prince Rupert Station Hospital
    1/3/41 - Appointed to Acting Lance Corporal without pay while on Provost Duty
    27/3/41 - Granted 14 days furlough
    9/4/41 - Returned from furlough
    4/7/41 - Promoted to Lance Corporal with pay
    3/9/41 - Reduced Permanent grade Fusilier since AWOL 2400H 30/8/41to 1745 hours 2/9/41. Absent 2 days 17 hours 45 minutes. 3 days automatic forfeiture of pay.
    26/10/41 - Admonished. Auto forfeiture of pay 5 days for Absent Without Leave 0600 hours 21/10/41 to 1425 hours 25/10/41
    12/12/41 - Admitted to Nanaimo Military Hospital in Nanaimo (Sick)
    18/2/42 - Discharged from Nanaimo Military Hospital (cured)
    19/2/42 - Granted sick furlough with pay from 18/2/41 to 4/3/42 authorized by Medical Board on 18/2/42.
    4/3/42 - Returned from sick furlough
    8/3/42 - Granted furlough with pay for period 8/3/42 to 21/3/42
    21/3/42 - Returned from furlough
    24/3/42 - Reboarded (medical) and place din Category "A1" medical
    1/6/42 - Granted embarkation leave and traveling time period 1/6/42 to 5/6/42. Issued with a special warrant
    5/6/42 - Returned from embarkation leave
    10/6/42 - SOS (Struck Off Strength) of 1st Battalion, Irish Fusiliers (VR) on posting to Serial 192. (Note: Serial 192 was the Calgary Highlanders)
    14/6/42 - SOS on embarkation in Canada
    15/6/42 - TOS Canadian Army Overseas - 2nd Canadian Division Infantry Reinforcement Unit- UK
    24/6/42 - Disembarked in UK
    25/6/42- Reported for duty
    14/7/42 - 7 days leave
    1/9/42 - Promoted to Acting Lance Corporal
    3/9/42 - Awarded one Good Conduct Badge
    29/10/42 to 5/11/42 - Leave
    26/10/42 - Acting Lance Corporal with Pay
    3/12/42 - Reverted to Private. To CHFU. SOS (Struck off strength) 2nd CDIFU
    4/12/42 - TOS (Taken on Strength) Calgary Highlanders
    1/1/43- Granted daily regular pay $1.50
    9/2/43 - Nine days leave with return allow to 18/2/43
    17/2/43 - Applied Acting Lance Corporal
    18/3/43 - To be Lance Corporal
    24/12/43 - Appointed Acting Lance Corporal
    25/3/44 - Confirmed in rank of Corporal
    5/7/44 - Embarked at UK
    6/7/44 - Disembarked at France
    8/8/44 - Wounded - Left Chest GSW (Gun Shot Wound?)
    9/8/44 - To 2nd Casualty Clearing Station
    14/8/44 - Admitted to 11th Canadian General Hospital in France
    22/8/44 - Transferred to 18th Canadian General Hospital in France
    25/8/44 - Discharged from 18th Canadian General Hospital in France
    29/9/44 - Severely reprimanded and forfeited 6 days pay. To 1st Canadian Reinforcement Unit in UK. Unit re-designated 1st Canadian Infantry Training Regiment.
     
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  10. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member Patron

    Dryan67,
    Great stuff. Hope Helena appreciates the great work.
     
  11. st helena

    st helena Junior Member

    Hi to All who have help me! :poppy:
    I would like to thank you All who have help me make out George's Army Records! I'm very grateful to you and to this Web-Site! without it I would not have known what some of his Army Records ment!!
    Are there any Army Records or War Diaries for the "1st Canadian Reinforcement Unit in UK. Unit re-designated 1st Canadian Infantry Training Regiment!.":confused:
    And when George returned to the UK after he was wounded in France, he joined the Army Training Unit in the UK! in 1944! are there any there any War Diaries for this Training Unit Please Guys?
    As after he was brought back in August 1944 to the George trained Troops ready to go to France,etc, is there any Web-Site Please to help find out more about this Unit?

    Thank You Guys! again! Very Grateful for your Kind Help! I wonder what ship he sailed on on in June 1942 to the UK?
    Can I use the War Diary Pages you put on this messages for me?
    I doing just for my family!
    Please keep up the good work! I'm really happy what you have done for me!:)

    :thankyousign: ALL! :poppy:
     
  12. st helena

    st helena Junior Member

    Hi,
    I enclose two of George's Army Records that I may have forgot? :poppy:
    That I had prolems putting on before!:)

    :thankyousign:
     

    Attached Files:

  13. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    I'll take a look at the additional records and get back to you. Although I don't have the war diary for 1st Cdn Inf Trg Regt, I do have the war diary for the 13th Canadian Infantry Training Brigade, which the 1st CITR was a part of. I will see about posting some of these war diaries soon. It may take a few days since I have some family business to deal with over the next two days.
     
  14. st helena

    st helena Junior Member

    Thank You! to one & All.
     
  15. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    st helena:

    I have looked at the additional records you posted for George Stuart and here is what I have come up with. There are some designations that I am unfamiliar with so I left them as is. Maybe someone else can help.

    Basically George Stuart enlisted in the Irish Fusiliers in July 1940 and was drafted as an active service soldier to England as part of the Dieppe Platoon drafts in June 1942. On arrival he was posted to the Calgary Highlanders, serving in England until July 1944. He then landed in France with the Calgary's and fought with them until wounded in early August 1944. After sometime in hospital in France and England, he was posted to the 1st Canadian Reinforcement Unit in order to recover from his wounds and return to action. This unit was renamed the 1st Canadian Infantry Training Regiment in November 1944. He remained with this unit taking a number of courses in preparation for working to train recruits passing through to NW Europe. In July 1945 he returned to Canada and volunteered for the Canadian Army Pacific Force, being posted to the newly formed 2nd Battalion, 2nd Canadian Infantry Regiment (Seaforth Highlanders of Canada). This was the British Columbia unit in the CAPF. This force never really got off the ground since the war in the Pacific ended in August 1945. In October 1945 he was discharged from the army.


    14/8/44 - Admitted to 11th Canadian General Hospital in France. Taken on strength (TOS) Y-3 from Calgary Highlanders X-3 while in 4th Canadian Convalescent Depot (CCD)- UK
    22/8/44 - Transferred to 18th Canadian General Hospital in France
    25/8/44 - Discharged from 18th Canadian General Hospital in France
    11/9/44 - Struck off Strength (SOS) to 1st Canadian Infantry Reinforcement Unit on discharge from 4th Canadian Convalescent Depot - UK. 9 days SPL with MA.
    12/9/44 - TOS 1st Canadian Infantry Reinforcement Unit (1 CIRU) from Y-3 on discharge 4th CCD
    29/9/44 - Severely reprimanded and forfeited 6 days pay [FR&I 149(1)(a)-Regulation Number] while under 1st CIRU A.A. Sec 15(1)). AWL (Absent Without Leave) - 5 days 15 hours 46 minutes
    20/10/44 - 9 days P.L. with MA
    18/11/44 - Posted to WE Incr "A" Training Battalion as Rifle Company Cfl? Applied Acting Lance Sergeant while employed on Incr A. Now under command 1st Canadian Infantry Training Regiment (ex - 1st CIRU)
    17/12/44 - Proceeded on Canadian Military Headquarters (CMHQ) course 1204 Serial 24 (Method of Instruction) and attached? to Sandgate Sub Wing CTS (Cresfends 23 Dec 44)
    23/12/44 - Returned from CMHQ Course 1204 Serial 24 (Method of Instruction) and CTBAFAP to Sub Wing CTS.
    17-26/1/45 - 9 days P.L. with MA
    22/3/45 - Admitted to 3rd CMC
    18/4/45 - Discharged from 3rd CMC
    19-28/4/45 - 9 days P.L. with MA
    11/5/45 - To Y-3 on admittance to 22nd Canadian General Hospital
    12/5/45 - From 1st CITR on Admittance to 22nd Canadian General Hospital
    15/5/45 - To 1st CITR on discharge from 22nd CGH
    16/5/45- Taken on Strength (TOS) from Y3 on discard from 22nd CGH
    17/5/45 - Volunteered for Pacific Theatre
    12/6/45 - SOS (Struck off Strength) 1st CITR to 65th CD Military District 11 (British Columbia)
    13/6/45 - TOS to 65th CD from 1st CITR.'
    2/7/45 - SOS 65th CD to Canadian Army Canada. Embarked from Canadian Army Overseas
    11/7/45 - Disembarked in Canada and granted 30 days special leave from 17 July to 15 August 1945 plus 4 day traveling time Posted to 2nd Battalion, 2nd Canadian Infantry Regiment (Seaforth Highlanders), Canadian Army Pacific Force (CAPF)
    11/9/45 - TOS to A15, Shilo, Manitoba (NB Training Centre) from CAPF 2nd Bn, 2nd Cdn Inf Regt (Seaforth Highlanders of Canada)
    6/10/45 - SOS A15 to No. 11 District Depot, Vancouver
    22/10/45 - SOS on discharge from army under CARO 1029 (5-C-1). Granted $100.00 C1. A11. Granted Rehab. Grant.
     
  16. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    You can read about the 13th Canadian Infantry Training Brigade here:

    www.canadiansoldiers.com

    The 1st Canadian Infantry Training Regiment (1st CITR) was part of this formation in England.

    You can read about the Canadian Army Pacific Force here:

    www.canadiansoldiers.com

    The 2nd Battalion, 2nd Canadian Infantry Regiment (Seaforth Highlanders of Canada) was part of that force.
     
  17. klambie

    klambie Senior Member

    Good info from dryan67, just one quibble. CDIRUs and CIRUs were really the same thing, with a name change some time in 1943. After 2 CDIRU was renamed 2 CIRU, it still had the job of gathering and training personnel tabbed as reinforcements for 2 Cdn Infantry Division. As of the time they were called CIRUs, they were typically organized with one Company (roughly 100 men) in the CIRU per Battalion in the Division.

    I don't believe 2 CDIRU was created explicitly for the purpose of organizing post-Dieppe reinforcements, though obviously that was the first big draw on personnel. Even prior to Dieppe, the division would have required a reinforcement organization to fill gaps due to sickness, transfers, etc.
     
  18. st helena

    st helena Junior Member

    Hi,
    Thank You Very much for your kind help in working bout George Stuart's War Record sheets for me! as it would have taken me a long,long time to try and work it out!
    So thanks again from me in Northampton,in Merry England.

    So Live Long & Prosper!
    Thank You!
     

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