14532100 Gunner Roy SANDERS, 805 Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery: 16/11/1943

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  1. aged

    aged Junior Member

    Any information please about Gunner 14532100 Roy Sanders 805 Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery killed in action on Tuesday 16th November 1943 aged 28 during the Dodecanese campaign.
     
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  2. travers1940

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    Army Casualty Lists reported him missing from 16.11.1943 Aegean Theatre, but not presumed dead until a list of 10.10.1945.

    Army Roll of Honour 1939-1945 shows born and resided in Derbyshire.

    His RA Tracer card has not survived, but these for close service numbers have which will give an idea of when he joined up.
    14532966 WATKINS, Cecil, joined 4.2.1943, 51 A/Tk Training Regiment RA
    14532103 SHAW, Thomas Youens, joined 4.2.1943 2nd Survey Regt RA
    14532105 SMITH, Frederick Thomas, joined 4.2.1943 232nd AA (OFC) T/Regt RA

    805 Defence Regiment RA formed by Middle East Forces 25th Oct 1943, disbanded 30th Nov 1943 & consisted of A & B Field Batteries.
    Defence batteries, Royal Artillery - Wikipedia

    As to where Roy Sanders died the only other 805 Def Regt soldier on CWGC is:
    897652 BURNETT Thomas Alexander, Gunner, died 14 Nov 1943, buried in Leros War Cemetery.
    Graves from all over Leros were concentrated here after the war & it's possible that Roy Sanders is among the 55 unknown UK soldiers buried here.
    https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/937232/thomas-alexander-burnett/

    This inscription on a family grave in Belper Cemetery, Derbyshire which could be the Roy Sanders you seek
    IN LOVING MEMORY OF/ A DEAR WIFE AND MOTHER/ VIOLETTA SANDERS./ PASSED AWAY 26TH. APRIL 1963,/ AGED 74 YEARS./ ALSO A DEAR HUSBAND AND FATHER/ PERCY EDWARD SANDERS,/ PASSED AWAY 2ND. DEC. 1969, AGED 83 YEARS./ ALSO ROY SANDERS, THEIR SON/ KILLED IN ACTION/ IN THE 1939 - 1945 WAR, AGED 27 YEARS. Foot of kerb: BERESFORD
    R Sanders

    Possible matching entry in the 1939 register
    35 Brookside, Belper Urban District
    SANDERS, Roy, married born 26.11.1914 Reed Maker & Repairer Silk ?Weaving
    SANDERS (later TOMLINSON from 1954), Beatrice, married, born 19.4.1917 unpaid domestic duties.
    plus one redacted record

    possible birth registration
    SANDERS, Roy (mother LOWE) Jan-Mar 1915 Belper Registration District.

    possible marriage
    Roy SANDERS marries Beatrice ANDREWS Jul-Sep 1936 Belper Reg Dist.



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  5. minden1759

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    16 Nov 43 was the day that 234 Infantry Brigade under Brigadier Robert Tilney surrendered on Leros in a campaign that came to be called Churchill's Folly.

    The Battle of Leros is a classic example of how the British should not do war. Having been at war since Sep 39, we had clearly learnt nothing about the Principles of War and the Principles of Defence.

    Regards

    Frank
     
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  6. aged

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    Thank you all. That has filled a few gaps in for me.
    Regards Richard.
     
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