Royal Navy, Service Records

Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by MuirHannah, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    He should also have the Burma star with Pacific clasp or vice versa due to his time in the Far East. Also possible a defence medal

    rewrite to mod medal office to re check as mistakes were made in the 1950’s
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  2. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Not so sure about the Burma Star/Clasp. I never know whether Colombo qualified as it is just to the east of the defining line.

  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    There was a thread quite a while ago in which this was discussed - cant find it now - but if I remember there was a map showing the line you had to cross in order to meet either Burma/Pacific Star requirements in terms of Naval personnel, and it was something like 10 miles offshore to the east of Ceylon (Sri Lanka), obviously meaning if you were shore based in India or Ceylon as far as the Navy were concerned then no medal

    Maybe if you check via the search engine you might have more luck than I did in finding the map


    This is NZ but based on the British requirements
    NZDF - The Burma Star Regulations
    40. Sea-going Service
    The qualification for army personnel posted for duty in sea-going vessels (para. 7) in direct or close support (i.e., within visual contact) of land operations is “entry into operational service” as for land service.
    For other service afloat, “entry into operational service” is subject to the qualification that the 1939-45 Star has previously been qualified for by 180 days' operational service.
    Causal entry into the qualifying area, e.g., service in ships proceeding from Colombo to Trincomalee in order to refit, will not be a qualification.
    Note.–The qualifying conditions for a special award of this star are stated in Section I.

    There is also a sort of map on post 8 in this thread - Qualification for Burma Star
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2020
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  4. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    If he was on a ship bourne to the books of Lanka and golden hind then the chances are he qualified for one or both

    at the very least if not attached to a ship then 6 months on Ceylon qualifies for the defence medal


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  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I think it might be worth reading - Medals: campaigns, descriptions and eligibility

    Defence Medal
    180 days non operational service in an overseas area deemed to be closely threatened or subject to air attack between 3 September 1939 and 8 May 1945

    One would have to ask - was Ceylon "deemed to be closely threatened or subject to air attack between 3 September 1939 and 8 May 1945" rathrt than just being on or close to Ceylon for that length of time during that period.
    Medals and their qualifications rules are a bit of a minefield


    Your best bet would be to ask the MOD Medal Office to check his entitlement
  6. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    When you look at the issue documents Ceylon qualified under the 6 month Rule. It has a list of areas which qualified under the 6 month rule
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  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    But it isnt what we think qualifies its what the person adjudicating thinks and whether or not they see it the same way.

    Ask the medal office and see what they say, I have always been impressed with their helpfulness

  8. TriciaF

    TriciaF Junior Member

    @ MuirHannah - I've read your thread with interest, because my Dad also served in the RN during WW2. As a telegraph operator. And it left him with symptoms which would now be called PTSD.
    I've had very good replies on here about his medals and service record.

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