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Regiments reborn...

Discussion in 'Postwar' started by Ramiles, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    One for those of a speculative nature:

    Are there any particular regiments that you'd really like to see "reborn" ?

    What are the chances of this ? Pretty slim I guess baring world war 4 (I think we all know how ww3 would end - and probably wouldn't need "big" armies in regiments much there))

    At the National Army Museum there's a growing list of "famous" British army units here:
    http://www.nam.ac.uk/research/famous-units

    There's also the old "(un) reliable wiki" with all the usual caveats (it's - buyer-beware ;) )
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Army_regiments

    With even one for their nicknames here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_of_British_Army_regiments

    In the UK at least have some of these regiments gone the way of the old counties and county borders (although there's always hope there on that!)

    Do they (Regiments) even make sense any more?

    It is a shame though to lose all those traditions and tradition is still something that the UK does well, but is it too late?
    How well do the amalgamated ones work? Better or less well?

    I am also interested in how this all works further abroad.

    Lot of questions I know, but pick those you like best!

    All the best,

    Rm.
     
  2. idler

    idler GeneralList Patron

    I think we'll be lucky to keep the ones we've got at the rate they're going...
     
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  3. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Yes, it did make me smile when they talked about "raising" a new "Cyber regiment" though - not too sure if that was a pun on geeks or Dr.Who - pretty scary - but I guess it's increasingly needed though...

    Not sure what their emblem should be, perhaps rather than a desert rat, maybe a computer mouse....
     
  4. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    All of them ,every last one! Its never going to happen though under any circumstance.
    In relation to your `Cyber Regiment` they already exist......
    USCYBERCOM
    USCYBERCOM plans, coordinates, integrates, synchronizes and conducts activities to: direct the operations and defense of specified Department of Defense information networks and; prepare to, and when directed, conduct full spectrum military cyberspace operations in order to enable actions in all domains, ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries

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    Kyle
     
  5. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Sadly, I think you are right.
     
  6. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Oh, I dunno, I suspect it might be thought likely in the corridors of power that a bit like King Arthur they are supposed to return if the country is ever in need :)

    You've got to hope though that the UK government is not just betting on the King Arthur defence ;)

    Might be a bit of a hollow hope: :eek:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Arthur%27s_messianic_return

    And surely Mr.Jinks:

    "ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries"

    that should be:

    "try to ensure US/Allied freedom of action in cyberspace and deny the same to our adversaries"

    ...as otherwise they are not letting themselves an easy way out. ;)

    Except of course it does only say: "and; prepare to, and when directed," above that bit... so Doh!
     
  7. Staffsyeoman

    Staffsyeoman Member

    I'd rather like my old regiment reborn - the Staffordshire Yeomanry. One of very few units I can think of which participated in El Alamein, D-Day and the Rhine Crossing. Slashed to a cadre in 1967 by Carver's axe; re-established in 1971 as part of the Mercian Yeomanry (Queen's Own Mercian Yeomanry from 1973; I joined in 1979). Force marched into union with the Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry in 1992; eventually provided tank crew reinforcements to the regular Army in the 2003 Gulf War; disbanded in 2012 just so a Yeomanry squadron could be established in Scotland. (Why? The Scottish Yeomanry had been formed in the 90s...)
     
  8. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    I've added a link to:

    http://www.nam.ac.uk...ch/famous-units
    Where at the National Army Museum there's a "growing" list of "famous" British army units, with some nice regimental badges and a bit of history for each. Sadly as yet it seems quite far from complete, and there seems to still be quiet a few missing and yet to be added there.

    There's also the old "(un) reliable wiki" with all the usual caveats (it's - buyer-beware ;) )
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Army_regiments

    All the best,

    Rm.
     
  9. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Those were the days:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_of_British_Army_regiments

    Some are fairly obvious, but there's an occasional mention of why they have the nickname too, it's possibly too great a challenge to work some of the others out, or their nickname's origin's are lost in the mists of time.....

    i.e. ???
    The Supple Twelfth - 12th Royal Lancers

    ...and doesn't explain the:
    The Bendovers - 96th Regiment of Foot later 2nd Battalion Manchester Regiment

    Though perhaps that's for the best ;)

    (a note from sol - just below: "Seems because number 96 reads the same when inverted.") - makes sense, soldiers have such pure minds, and such an eye for detail. I'm shocked at myself now really. :salut:

    Rm.
     
  10. sol

    sol Very Senior Member

    Seems because number 96 reads the same when inverted.
     
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  11. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Sounds reasonable, but you've really got me fighting the urge to go and look for the nickname of the 69th now... :eek:
    ...just in case they are the "Bendover Backwards" of course ;)

    ....a bit later....zzzz...

    Naturally of course could not resist:

    The Old Agamemnons - 69th (South Lincolnshire) Regiment of Foot later The Welsh Regiment

    Okay, that's obscure. And noticed that there are quite a lot of "olds" in there. Wonder when soldiering became a young man's game? seems like sometime around the Boer and First World War :poppy: :poppy:

    Rm.
     
  12. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    Has there not been mention of raising a Sikh Regiment in the past few months?
    If it did happen wonder if they would re-raise a Regiment from the days of the RaJ?
     
  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  14. The Cooler King

    The Cooler King Elite Member

    The South Lancashire Regiment................. :pipe:

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  15. The Cooler King

    The Cooler King Elite Member

    Oh and the SWB............... :)

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  16. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

  17. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Bring back regiment numbers. I think it all went horribly wrong when they named them after counties.

    What's wrong with being the 24th of Foot.

    All the best

    Andreas
     
  18. The Cooler King

    The Cooler King Elite Member

    Having both sounds even better.......................24th Regiment of Foot, The South Wales Borderers...............but then again the The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders sounds better than the 91st or 93rd Regiment of Foot...............

    :wink:
     
  19. TTH

    TTH Senior Member

    If the SWB is raised again, Sir Michael Caine should be made honorary colonel. (He did serve in Korea, you know, though not with the SWB.)
     
  20. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    I love the fact that Caine really wanted to play Chard (the other - (the "rougher speaking") officer in Zulu (S.Baker's role)), Caine couldn't at first see himself as the posh upper class one (Bromhead) and wanted to play Chard like the character he played in Alfie.

    So many films would benefit from different filmed versions being made where the actors playing the parts do a switch around. That way you might also see some amazing "acting" - and really see if it's the part or the actor that wins an oscar :)

    Superb SWB museum in Brecon by the way:
    http://royalwelsh.org.uk/regimental-museum-of-the-royal-welsh.shtml

    Plenty of VCs. and an archive which in particular relates to the Zulu War of 1879.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Wales_Borderers_Museum
     

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