Does anyone have a chart or can direct me to one, that has BA, RN and RAF ranks with their US or Wermacht equivalents for the era 1939-1945? If you have other powers, such as Italy, Romania, Hungary and Free French enlisted, I could use those too. I have US, USSR, Germany, Japan, Free France (officers only), Poland (officers only), Greece (officers only)
I have the American handbook on the British Army from 1943. I'll scan the ranks section when I get home
Does anyone have a chart or can direct me to one, that has BA, RN and RAF ranks with their US or Wermacht equivalents for the era 1939-1945? If you have other powers, such as Italy, Romania, Hungary and Free French enlisted, I could use those too. I hope you do find your chart to reference equivalent ranks from different forces of the period. You are correct in your use of the abbreviations RN and RAF, and would have been also correct to use RM to abbreviate Royal Marines, There is no abbreviation 'BA' where the army is concerned. It is the Army or British Army. I'm sure you would find it equally strange if I went round abbreviating the US Army as 'USA'. All the letters are in the right place, but it might get a little confused with something else.
BA Barracus? Must admit I would like this equivalent ranks system. I have some ranks for the RAF, USAAF and Luftwaffe but i am very unsure where they equate to one another. RAF RANKS Sq/L Squadron Leader F/Lt Flight Lieutenant F/O Flying Officer P/O Pilot Officer F/Sgt Flight Sergeant LAC Leading Aircraftsman CPRL Corporal AC1 Aircraftsman 1 USAAF RANKS Lt/Col Lieutenant Colonel Maj Major 1st Lt First Lieutenant 2nd Lt Second Lieutenant F/O Flight Officer T/Sgt Technical Sergeant LUFTWAFFE RANKS Oblt Oberleutnant Ofw Oberfeldweble Fw Feldweble Uffz Unteroffizer Equivalents in the other services would be a god send
Point taken, I just wonder why the rest of these goobers in here had not corrected me, as I have used it before. I guess they were just being polite, which is a good thing. It kinda goes along with my good PM discussion with someone here about Pearl Harbor being spelled without a "u", since it is a US possession and it's proper name is spelled in the American way. It's not something worth pitching a fit over, I'll just get in the left side of the car, after putting my belongings in the trunk and filling the tank with gas, and back onto the highway, driving in the right, not left, lane, and not the center, as I make my way to the theater to watch a play on aluminum production. nyuk nyuk nyuk
Must admit I would like this equivalent ranks system. I have some ranks for the RAF, USAAF and Luftwaffe but i am very unsure where they equate to one another. I'm typing it up as an Excel file. When it is relatively done, I'll pass it on to anyone that wants it.
Could start with this: Comparative military ranks of World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Ranks and Czech air force: <table border="1"><tbody><tr><td align="center" width="190"><big>Rank</big></td> <td align="center" width="130"><big>Abbreviation</big></td> <td align="center" width="230"><big>Czech equivalent (approximately)</big></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Marshal of the RAF</td> <td width="130">Mshl/RAF</td> <td width="230">maršál letectva</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Air Chief Marshal</td> <td width="130">ACM</td> <td width="230">armádní generál</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Air Marshal</td> <td width="130">AM</td> <td width="230">divizní generál</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Air Vice Marshal</td> <td width="130">AVM</td> <td width="230">brigádní generál</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Air Commodore</td> <td width="130">ACom</td> <td width="230">brigádní generál</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Group Captain</td> <td width="130">G/Cpt</td> <td width="230">plukovník</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Wing Commander</td> <td width="130">W/Cdr</td> <td width="230">podplukovník</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Squadron Leader</td> <td width="130">S/Ldr</td> <td width="230">major</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Flight Lieutenant</td> <td width="130">F/Lt</td> <td width="230">kapitán</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Flight Officer</td> <td width="130">F/O</td> <td width="230">nadporučík</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Pilot/Officer</td> <td width="130">P/O</td> <td width="230">poručík</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Warrant Officer</td> <td width="130">W/O</td> <td width="230">praporčík</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Flight Sergeant</td> <td width="130">F/Sgt</td> <td width="230">rotmistr</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Sergeant</td> <td width="130">Sgt</td> <td width="230">četař</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Corporal</td> <td width="130">Cpl</td> <td width="230">desátník</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Leading Aircraftman</td> <td width="130">LAC</td> <td width="230">svobodník</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Aircraftman No 1 Class</td> <td width="130">AC 1</td> <td width="230">vojín</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="190">Aircraftman No 2 Class</td> <td width="130">AC 2</td> <td width="230">vojín nováček</td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dt>Polish Army</dt><dt><table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="1" cellspacing="1" width="70%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="120"> Polish rank </td> <td width="50"> Abbrev </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="80"> Equivalent to: </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> szeregowiec </td> <td width="50"> szer. </td> <td width="80"> Private </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> strzelec </td> <td width="50"> strz. </td> <td width="80"> Rifleman </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> dragon </td> <td width="50"> drag. </td> <td width="80"> Dragoon </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> ulan </td> <td width="50"> ul. </td> <td width="80"> Lancer </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> saper </td> <td width="50"> sap. </td> <td width="80"> Sapper </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> kanonier </td> <td width="50"> kan. </td> <td width="80"> Gunner </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> grenadier </td> <td width="50"> gren. </td> <td width="80"> Grenadier </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy szeregowiec </td> <td width="50"> st.szer. </td> <td width="80"> Lance Corporal </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy strzelec </td> <td width="50"> st.strz. </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy dragon </td> <td width="50"> st.drag. </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy ulan </td> <td width="50"> st. ul. </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy saper </td> <td width="50"> st.sap. </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> bombardier </td> <td width="50"> bomb. </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy grenadier </td> <td width="50"> st. gren. </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> kapral </td> <td width="50"> kapr. </td> <td width="80"> Corporal </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> plutonowy </td> <td width="50"> plut. </td> <td width="80"> Lance Sergeant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> sierzant </td> <td width="50"> sierz. </td> <td width="80"> Sergeant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> wachmistrz </td> <td width="50"> wachm. </td> <td width="80"> Sergeant of Horse </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> ogniomistrz </td> <td width="50"> ognm. </td> <td width="80"> Artillery Sergeant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy sierzant </td> <td width="50"> st.sierz. </td> <td width="80"> Staff-Sergeant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy wachmistrz </td> <td width="50"> st.wachm. </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> starszy ogniomistrz </td> <td width="50"> st.ognm. </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> chorazy </td> <td width="50"> chor. </td> <td width="80"> Warrant Officer </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> aspirant </td> <td width="50"> asp. </td> <td width="80"> Aspirant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> podporucznik </td> <td width="50"> ppor. </td> <td width="80"> Second-Lieutenant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> porucznik </td> <td width="50"> por. </td> <td width="80"> Lieutenant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> kapitan </td> <td width="50"> kpt. </td> <td width="80"> Captain </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> rotmistrz </td> <td width="50"> rtm. </td> <td width="80"> Captain of Horse </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> major </td> <td width="50"> mjr. </td> <td width="80"> Major </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> podpulkownik </td> <td width="50"> pplk. </td> <td width="80"> Lieutenant-Colonel </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> pulkownik </td> <td width="50"> plk. </td> <td width="80"> Colonel </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> general brygady </td> <td width="50"> gen.bryg. </td> <td width="80"> Major-General </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> general dywizji </td> <td width="50"> gen.dyw. </td> <td width="80"> Lieutenant-General </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> general broni </td> <td width="50"> gen.broni </td> <td width="80"> General </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> marszalek </td> <td width="50"> marsz. </td> <td width="80"> Marshal </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> </td> <td width="50"> </td> <td width="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="120"> podchorazy </td> <td width="50"> pchor. </td> <td width="80"> Cadet Officer </td></tr></tbody></table></dt></dl> Polish Navy<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="1" cellspacing="1" width="70%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="136"> Polish rank </td> <td width="76"> Abbrev </td> <td width="124"> RN equivalent </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> marynarz </td> <td width="76"> mar. </td> <td width="124"> Ordinary Seaman </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> starszy marynarz </td> <td width="76"> st.mar. </td> <td width="124"> Able-Bodied Seaman </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> mat </td> <td width="76"> mat </td> <td width="124"> Leading Seaman </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> starszy mat </td> <td width="76"> st.mat </td> <td width="124"> Senior Leading Seaman </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> bosmanmat </td> <td width="76"> bosmanmat </td> <td width="124"> Petty Officer 2nd Class </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> bosman </td> <td width="76"> bosman </td> <td width="124"> Petty Officer 1st Class </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> starszy bosman </td> <td width="76"> st.bosman </td> <td width="124"> Chief Petty Officer </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> chorazy marynarki </td> <td width="76"> chor.mar. </td> <td width="124"> Warrant Officer </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> podporucznik marynarki </td> <td width="76"> ppor.mar. </td> <td width="124"> Sub-Lieutenant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> porucznik marynarki </td> <td width="76"> por.mar </td> <td width="124"> Lieutenant </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> kapitan marynarki </td> <td width="76"> kpt.mat </td> <td width="124"> Lieutenant Commander </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> komandor-podporucznik </td> <td width="76"> kdr.ppor </td> <td width="124"> Commander </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> komandor-porucznik </td> <td width="76"> kdr.por </td> <td width="124"> No equivalent RN rank </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> komandor </td> <td width="76"> kdr. </td> <td width="124"> Captain RN </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> no equivalent Polish rank </td> <td width="76"> </td> <td width="124"> Commodore </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> kontr-admiral </td> <td width="76"> </td> <td width="124"> Rear-Admiral </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> wice-admiral </td> <td width="76"> </td> <td width="124"> Vice-Admiral </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> admiral </td> <td width="76"> </td> <td width="124"> Admiral </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="136"> no equivalent Polish rank </td> <td width="76"> </td> <td width="124"> Admiral of the Fleet </td></tr></tbody></table> Air Force<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="1" cellspacing="1" width="70%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="100"> Polish rank </td> <td width="48"> Abbrev </td> <td width="106"> RAF rank </td> <td width="46"> Abbrev </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> szeregowiec </td> <td width="48"> szer. </td> <td width="106"> Aircraftman Class 2 </td> <td width="46"> AC2 </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> starszy szeregowiec </td> <td width="48"> st.szer </td> <td width="106"> Aircraftman Class 1 </td> <td width="46"> AC1 </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> kapral </td> <td width="48"> kpr. </td> <td width="106"> Leading Aircraftman </td> <td width="46"> LAC </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> plutonowy </td> <td width="48"> plut. </td> <td width="106"> Corporal </td> <td width="46"> Cpl. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> sierzant </td> <td width="48"> sierz. </td> <td width="106"> Sergeant </td> <td width="46"> Sgt. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> starszy sierzant </td> <td width="48"> st.sierz. </td> <td width="106"> Flight Sergeant </td> <td width="46"> F/Sgt. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> chorazy </td> <td width="48"> chor. </td> <td width="106"> Warrant Officer </td> <td width="46"> W/O. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> podporucznik </td> <td width="48"> ppor. </td> <td width="106"> Pilot Officer </td> <td width="46"> P/O. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> pororucznik </td> <td width="48"> por. </td> <td width="106"> Flying Officer </td> <td width="46"> F/O. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> kapitan </td> <td width="48"> kpt. </td> <td width="106"> Flight Lieutenant </td> <td width="46"> F/Lt. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> major </td> <td width="48"> mjr. </td> <td width="106"> Squadron Leader </td> <td width="46"> S/Ldr. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> podpulkownik </td> <td width="48"> pplk. </td> <td width="106"> Wing Commander </td> <td width="46"> W/Cdr. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> pulkownik </td> <td width="48"> plk. </td> <td width="106"> Group Captain </td> <td width="46"> G/Cpt. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> no equivalent rank </td> <td width="48"> </td> <td width="106"> Air Commodore </td> <td width="46"> A.Cdr. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> general brygady </td> <td width="48"> gen.bryg. </td> <td width="106"> Air Vice Marshal </td> <td width="46"> A.V.M. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> general dywizji </td> <td width="48"> gen.dyw. </td> <td width="106"> Air Marshal </td> <td width="46"> A.M. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> general broni </td> <td width="48"> gen.br. </td> <td width="106"> Air Chief Marshal </td> <td width="46"> A.C.M. </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> marszalek </td> <td width="48"> </td> <td width="106"> Marshal of the RAF </td> <td width="46"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> </td> <td width="48"> </td> <td width="106"> </td> <td width="46"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100"> podchorazy </td> <td width="48"> pchor. </td> <td width="106"> Officer Cadet </td> <td width="46"> O.Cdt. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Cheers Slip. Don't mind Plant Pot, he is a serving officer at her Majesty's Pleasure in the RE. He's a bit sensitive. And yes I am now going to barricade myself in a room in preparation for him seeing this post. I have missed a fair few ranks on the lists I've put up as thats all i have. i know the next one up from Sq/L is Wing Co, but thats about it, from there on in I get hazy.
I hope you do find your chart to reference equivalent ranks from different forces of the period. You are correct in your use of the abbreviations RN and RAF, and would have been also correct to use RM to abbreviate Royal Marines, There is no abbreviation 'BA' where the army is concerned. It is the Army or British Army. I'm sure you would find it equally strange if I went round abbreviating the US Army as 'USA'. All the letters are in the right place, but it might get a little confused with something else. USA is correct as the abbrevation for the us Army
Kyt steps into the breach once again. 10-Q very much! I had found the wiki page but not the ranks page you provided.
Found this page on the Royal Navy Ranks and Ratings Royal Navy casualties, killed and died, 1955 <-----Description is wrong, link is right
British Field-Marshal. General. Lieutenant-General. Major-General. Brigadier.<O:p</O:p Colonel. Lieutenant-Colonel. Major. <O:p</O:p Captain. Lieutenant. Second-Lieutenant. United States General. Lieutenant General. Major General. Brigadier General. Colonel. Lieutenant Colonel. Major. Captain. First Lieutenant. Second Lieutenant. Royal Navy Admiral of the Fleet. Admiral. Vice Admiral. Rear-Admiral. Commodore (1st and 2nd class). Captain. Commander. Lieutenant-Commander. Lieutenant. Sub-Lieutenant and Commissioned Warrant Officer. Army<O:p</O:p Field-Marshal. General. Lieutenant-General. Major-General. Brigadier. Colonel. Lieutenant-Colonel. Major. Captain. Lieutenant. Royal Air Force <O:p</O:p Marshal of the Royal Air Force. Air Chief Marshal. Air Marshal. Air Vice-Marshal. Air Commodore. Group Captain. Wing Commander. Squadron Leader. Flight Lieutenant. Flying Officer. Pilot Officer <O:p</O:p
