Margaret Thatcher :1925-2013

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  2. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    I understand that many forum members may disagree with my thoughts but, I believe she was the last true 'Prime Minister' of this country. All since, have fallen woefully short of her example and leadership qualities.
     
  3. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    A great woman passed. I hope she'll go to Heaven or else the Devil will be claiming asylum.

    A rare breed indeed, Rest In Peace.
     
  4. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    She did OK with the Falklands in 1982, but I doubt the miners will agree with the above statement.
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  6. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    As far as Defense goes she supported the Forces and learned the dangers of cuts that led to the Falklands conflict which showed that she had a Churchillian touch as a War leader. I think her death is probably a welcome release after her long illness.
     
  7. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

    I would have thought that it should be a day for her family to reflect on a long and eventful life and not a time to express too many partisan sentiments - although a ravenous media frenzy (stimulated by Lord Bell et al) suggests otherwise.

    But to my mind, I would suggest that Attlee, some parts of wartime Churchill, and early century Asquith's government (to name three) come to mind well before considering the political merits of Mrs Thatcher.
     
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  8. Joe Brown

    Joe Brown WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    I mourn her passing. Through my work had the pleasure of meeting her on a number of occasions, and once the special and treasured honour to propose a toast to her as Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury. Always thoughtful, never too busy that she didn't take time to hand-write a personal note. I shall always remember one conversation when she told me if I had known you were staying in the room next door I would have borrowed your hairdryer as mine wouldn't work!

    A dynamic leader but kind, considerate and thoughtful; a truly great Prime Minister.

    Joe Brown.
     
  9. martin14

    martin14 Senior Member

    RIP Maggie.

    A real lioness for her country.
     
  10. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    She showed strength and toughness of character. At least she went to war for far better reasons than Bliar.
    RIP Maggie. I didn't agree with all you did but we could sure do with that fortitude in today's govt.
     
  11. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    RIP Maggie.

    Always did what she thought was right for Britain.

    A true patriot.
     
  12. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    She did two good things for me personally, that on the face of it wasn't.

    First getting rid of compulsory milk at school. I was lactose intolerant but didn't know it at the time. Stopping the milk got rid of the late morning nausea.

    Second her Government closed down my Seconday School. Again not so great on the face of it. But turned out well. Lots of kids left for new schools early. I stuck with it until the closure. 47 pupils with 12 teachers, with some class sizes of 2 pupils. Went from an average/poor student to excelling in the last couple of years. Passed all my O'levels when a couple of years earlier wasn't expected to do well in CSEs.

    RIP Maggie, no doubt you're getting a lot of abuse back home right now but thanks for getting rid of my nausea and thanks for the almost private-quality education.
     
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  13. militarycross

    militarycross Very Senior Member

    She will be remembered for her strength of resolve in the face of many obstacles. May you find peace in the eternal kingdom. Thank you for your service to your nation and my world.

    phil.
     
  14. jacksun

    jacksun Senior Member

    Quite a Lady, Quite a life. Rest in Peace Maggie.

    Makes one think what she would feel about the state of things today, and what she would do if in charge.
     
  15. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Like the Empire of old - she did more good than harm - and to-days lot would be cleared out by now


    RIP Maggie
     
  16. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    RIP Maggie

    From a distance I had to admire her leadership qualities, conviction and toughness.
     
  17. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    George Galloway defending his comments on Margaret Thatcher:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST4MV3ETQ-g

    Ron
     
  18. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

  19. chick42-46

    chick42-46 Senior Member

    Maybe this isn't the thread - or maybe the timing is wrong - but here goes.

    George Galloway is an arse. I think most right-thinking people would agree. And I particularly dislike him because, by being a complete arse and making everything he says all about himself, he invalidates perfectly good arguments by association.

    I am not suggesting Margaret Thatcher's soul should go to eternal damnation. I'm an atheist, so that would be illogical. But I'm afraid I must say that he has many valid points.

    I metaphorically did two things yesterday. I bought champagne to celebrate her passing (and I don't mean celebrate in a "nice" way). And I bought a supply of sick bags to cope with the overwhelming nausea I knew I was going to experience, having to put up with the instant hagiography that was about to appear all over the media.

    Please, no-one who has expressed condolences for Margaret Thatcher and praise for her past works on this thread should take offence. I don't doubt that you are genuine in the sentiments you have expressed,

    But the trouble is, many, many people do not share those sentiments.

    As a small illustration - Scotland got a devolved government, and will have a referendum on independence from the rest of the UK on 18 September 2014, as a direct consequence of how loathed Margaret Thatcher's policies were in Scotland.

    So, perhaps if we all just express condolences, without getting into politics, things will go well. But I fear that, if members use this thread to make political points, they can't expect other members who disagree to stay silent.

    There is an excellent piece on the Guardian's website about this sort of thing, which I can recommend - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette


    Cheers

    Ian
     
  20. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Margaret Thatcher was a great Briton. Whatever their politics, everyone owes her respect
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100211037/margaret-thatcher-was-a-great-briton-whatever-their-politics-everyone-owes-her-respect/

    Ian I agree re politics it is not the time.
    However there is a difference between stating that she was good/bad then adding celebrating her death with champagne and street parties etc


    So lets keep this on track,keep politics out of it and keep derogatory comments out of it both ways

    regards
    Clive
     
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