Major Robert John Pollok-Morris

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by HHAlloway, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. HHAlloway

    HHAlloway Member

    I have just come across this site and am still stumbling my way through the wealth of information it seems to contain so I apologise if this is posted in the wrong area.

    I am researching those named on our local war memorial and one of the names is that of Robert John Pollok-Morris. I have some personal information but am struggling with the military side. I cannot access his official war records as I am not a family member so all I know is that at the outbreak of the Second World War he joined 'a battalion' of the Royal Scots Fusiliers. The CWGC site has this recorded as the 6th battalion but whether this was just at the time of his death or for the duration is unclear. He became a Major, Service Number 98449 and appears to have remained in the UK until D-Day. He was killed on the 16 Sep 1944, aged 27yrs, and was originally buried in Gooreinde then relocated to Kosterlee, 21 Jun 1945.

    Any information, or pointers as to where I might find more information, regarding his journey from June to September 1944 will be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.
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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    You can get his records from here for £30 you will not find them anywhere else.
    Have a read Get a copy of military service records
    Plus war diaries will give you info.
    A few members on here do a copy service at Kew at very good rates

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  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

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  4. HHAlloway

    HHAlloway Member

    Thank you Clive. I always thought I needed to be next of kin, or at least have their permission, to apply. Obviously this is not the case! Will look into it.
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  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    That's only if they died less than 25 years ago.
    Anyone can apply for records of those that died in the war.
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  7. HHAlloway

    HHAlloway Member

    WOW! Thank you! That is fantastic! Robert is not mentioned by name but there it is - 2 Officers killed at Gooreinde....and the action that was taking place that day, prior to and beyond. Wish I'd found this site sooner!
  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    they all say that :wacko::whistle:

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  9. HHAlloway

    HHAlloway Member

    Thank you. I have this but grateful to you for taking the trouble to post it. Through CWGC I confirmed that he was 6th Btn....just struggled with his military career...
  10. Owen

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  11. HHAlloway

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    Ah right. So he was a Cadet when he attended Harrow...would that have continued during his studies at Oxford? According to the Gazette he must have joined the 6th in Sep 1939 and stayed with them throughout. I know that he applied for a permanent commission before being posted overseas. So the 6th remained in the UK for most of the war - until D-Day anyway... Sorry, jumbled up thoughts..thinking out loud!
  12. HHAlloway

    HHAlloway Member

    Gentlemen, (I am assuming you are all gentlemen - please forgive me if I am wrong!) Thank you so much for all your help today, you have brought my research on leaps and bounds. You might also be interested to know that there is an article by Charles Hanaway who was a Bren gunner with the 6th Btn RSF in 1944. Although he just describes '3 Days in June' he recalls how, after the CO had given his men the brief that the next day (26th June) they were going to face the 12th SS 'Hitler Jugend' Division..

    '...pandemonium broke out, and to me Sassenach, and Englishman amongst the Scots, I could not believe what I was witnessing, bagpipes were being played, men were singing and dancing in groups all over the field, just hours to go and they're celebrating and all are sober.'

    Sobering thought that by the end of the conflict so many were gone.

    I have also looked up the others who were killed on the 16th Sep 1944 with Robert...that's my problem..I get sucked down rabbit holes! I just think that everyone should be remembered.

    Capt William Picken MC - 247013
    Sgt William Crawford - 3135167 - 32yrs
    L/Cpl Roland Leslie Pearce - 14442103 - 19yrs
    Fus John Henderson - 3603503 - 29yrs
    Fus George Connell Chalmers - 14214420 - 20yrs
    Fus Donald Cameron - 14707283 - 19yrs
    Fus William Roland Daniels - 1463485 - 19yrs

    Thank you all again for your help. I will be back as I have one more lad to research - you have ben warned1
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  13. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    MC:P202 Photograph album of Robert John Pollok-Morris (1916–44)
    Robert John Pollok-Morris (1916–44) was educated at Harrow, and was a Commoner at Magdalen in 1935–8, getting a Third in History. During the Second World War he served as a Major in the 6th Battalion of the Royal Scots Fusiliers, and was killed in action in Belgium. More information on him will be found in R. Hutchins and R. Sheppard, The Undone Years (2003).

    This album was given to the College by Pollok-Morris’ nephew, and transferred to the archives in December 2002 as Accession No. 02/299.

    MC:P202 Photograph album of Robert John Pollok-Morris (1916–44) | Magdalen College Oxford
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  14. HHAlloway

    HHAlloway Member

    Thank you for this info. I note from Magdalen College that amongst the photos there is one of Robert himself in military uniform - obviously taken post 1939. I have e-mailed their archivist to see if it would be possible to obtain a copy.
    I didn't realise that he got a third in History - all the documentation I have read just refers to 'a degree' in History as well as a Diploma in Economics.

    The Undone Years is a little steep for me - will see how much other information I can obtain first before resorting to a purchase...although it does sound tempting!

    Thank you again.

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