London Scottish Regiment

Discussion in 'British Army Units - Others' started by Blaydon, Feb 1, 2009.

  1. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    This is perhaps an all to familiar story, my grandfather never talked about his military service and now he has gone and I am left with one photo.

    The photo is marked on the back 14 Jul 1945

    It shows him in battle dress blouse with a scottish headress of which the badge is not very visible.

    Shoulder title reads London Scottish

    below this a round patch with no visible detail

    below this a horizontal strip comprising two dark strips separated by a lighter one

    below this a light coloured rectangular patch with a darker thistle

    below this his Corporals chevrons

    (Sorry I do not have a scanner and haven't got round to getting it done)

    Any details of the London Scottish and what these badges are and represent would be great.

    Any veterans of the LS his name was David L. May from Aberdeen he was a boxer so he may have boxed for the regt.

    All help much appreciated

    Kev
     
  2. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Hi Kev - and welcome. Any chance you could post that photo?
     
  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Sorry I do not have a scanner and haven't got round to getting it done
    What about a digital camera or a mobile phone with one?
    Welcome to the forum by the way.
     
  4. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Ah - I didn't notice that.
     
  5. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    here is just a quick one taken with a phone i will try to get it scanned properly next week.
     

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  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I'd contact the Regiment here.

    Old Soldiers of the Regiment : London Scottish Regiment : UK Territorial Army Regiment

    The two horizontal bars show he is in a unit in the second brigade of his Division.

    If he's 1st Bn that would be 56th Div, but the sign isn't the Black Cat.
    56th (London) Infantry Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    British Formation Signs

    If he 2nd Bn, he'd be in 48th Reserve Division.

    History of the Regiment 1939- 1945 : London Scottish Regiment : UK Territorial Army Regiment
    1st Bn
    they formed part of the force which chased the remnants of the German army to Trieste where the Battalion became part of the Army of Occupation.

    2nd Bn
    after D Day, it was organised as a reserve battalion in the 48th Reserve Division stationed at Thornhill in Dumfriesshire until the end of the war.
     
  7. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    He was supposed to be in france in 45

    medals recieved as follows
    General Service 1918-64
    1939-1945 star
    france and germany star
    defence medal
    war medal 1939-1945
    Queen Elizabeth 2 coronation medal

    would this tie him down to a Bn? 1st Bn as they were on the continent?

    unfortunately all I have are ribbons not the medals so no service numbers etc.
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    1st Bn was down in Italy & Austria.
    Wonder if was with another unit then sent to 2nd Bn as Instructor after the war?
    As he has no Italy Star then that rules out 1st Bn.
     
  9. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    The cap badge looks like KOSB, not London Scots. Pretty sure the London Jocks don't have a diced tartan glengary either.
     
  10. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    Something was said about manning AA and channel guns early in the war did either Bn do that?

    But those are LS titles are they not White on red I believe they were?

    I must admit that the cap badge looks like it has a crown at the top which I don't think LS had looks more like a KOSB.
     
  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    From their website, regards 3rd Bn.
    For the first two years of the war all three battalions were engaged in training and defence duties, the most satisfying service falling to the 3rd Bn which was in action throughout the Battle of Britain and subsequently air offensives as part of the AA defences of London.


    The 3rd Bn was converted from static to mobile HAA and left for Egypt in December, 1942. It subsequently fought through the Sicilian and Italian campaigns often being employed in a ground role instead of AA. It took part in the actions at Cassino, Poggibonsi, Arezzo and San Archangelo where 298 Battery was in direct support of the 1st Bn.
     
  12. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    Would he possibly have moved between Bn's starting in one doing AA work then ending in france?
     
  13. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    here is just a quick one taken with a phone i will try to get it scanned properly next week.

    Just checked my LS History, and he is definitely not wearing a London Scottish glengarry.
     
  14. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    So a bit of a mystery LS titles but not headgear
     
  15. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    The Thistle flash is also a mystery; I can't find it in 'Heraldry At War'. Did he serve with the LS post-war, in the TA?

    If you can get a better scan of the area where all the battle flashes are, that would help.
     
  16. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    He obviously served post war probably in the TA as otherwise he wouldnt have a coronation medal but as he lived in Aberdeen I doubt that it was with LS.

    As to the photo as I said I will endeavour to get it scanned next week.

    but the photo is dated july 45 so they are not post war insignia.
     
  17. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    Here are the scanned images including a closeup of the badges.
     

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  18. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hi and Welcome to the forum......Thinking outside of the box here. Could he have took up a posting to the LS as a Instructor and told to stitch the flashes on his uniform and kept his original units flashes on his kit?

    That happened at lot when I was in much to the annoyance to some officers and RSM's. Personnel get attached to make up units OrBats for tours etc.

    Just a thought
    Cheers
    Andy
     
  19. Blaydon

    Blaydon Junior Member

    That is an idea as I have been told elsewhere that the cap badge dosen't look like a London scottish cap badge as it seems to have a crown and lion on top and the only scottish badge I have seen with that was KOSB

    also no one seems to be able to identify the thistle badge.

    The top one I was wondering if it could be the GHQ badge but I can't quite make it out.
     

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  20. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    The Thistle flash looks a bit like the old 9th Scottish division? The 9th amalgamated into the 51st HD after Dunkirk.
     

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