Information about British soldier - Halfaya Sollum Cemetery

Discussion in 'North Africa & the Med' started by Mat McLachlan, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. Mat McLachlan

    Mat McLachlan Junior Member

    Hi all,

    I'm seeking information about L/Cpl Albert Ernest Miller, #7908207 who was killed on the 22/11/1941. Apparantly he served in the Royal Tank Regiment.

    I'm specifically after information about where he would have served with his unit before being killed, so I can plan an itinerary for his daughter who wants to visit his grave.

    He is buried in Halfaya Sollum Cemetery.

    Is there anything noteworthy (apart from the cemetery) to visit in the area?

    Cheers,

    Mat
     
  2. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Mat -
    It would appear that L/cpl Miller was killed at the first battle of Sid Rezigh which was calamatious for British Tanks at that time - this was the day before the infamous Totensonntag ( Dead Sunday ) when a whole brigade of South Africans was wiped out by Rommel.

    Brigadier "Jock" Campbell and Lt. Gunn won their V.C.s' in that action at Sidi Rezigh

    The 7th Armoured Division in which he probably served either in 4th - or 7th Armoured Bdes or even 22nd Armoured Bde had - amongst them - the 4th/ 7th /2nd /and 6th RTR. His service record will note his battalion

    The main area of that battle was in the region Tobruk - Sidi Rezigh - Halfaya and Sollum neither of which will ever see a heritage plaque for beauty.

    Noteworthy ? - not really - liable to sandstorms - intense daily heat - and exceedingly cold once the sun heads west...another poster ' Kuno' lives near Tripoli and he can give current travel notes for that area.

    Cheers
     
  3. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Mat - a bit more on the Halfaya area - since the war of course they have gone all Lybian and so nowadays - if you google maps - you will find strange names such as Tobruq - Adam I should think would be the old Sidi Rezigh - Kambout about the same - Amsa'd for Halfaya - and Salu'm for Sollum - check it out -it's still bare

    cheers
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    Says he was in 44 RTR.

    Read this.
    List of units that served in the 4th Armoured Brigade - Black Rats

    44th RTR: The 44th RTR was formed in 1938 from 6th Bn. The Gloucestershire Regiment at the same time as its duplicate battalion - 50th RTR. When war was declared on 3rd September 1939 44th RTR was in Bristol, attached to 21st Army Tank Brigade at the time. The battalion the went to the Middle East in April 1941 and by the time of Operation Crusader, November 1941, 1st Army Tank Brigade, equipped with Valentine Tanks, along with 8th and 42nd RTR, supporting 2nd New Zealand Division, contributing to the Divisions stand against the German and Italian armoured attacks on 30th November 1942*.

    *That last date should be 30th Nov 1941.


    More background on Operation Crusader
    Operation Crusader - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  5. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    A couple picture of Sollum 1941
     

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  6. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    And a couple of pictures of Hellfire
     

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  7. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Owen & Mat - while there is no mention of either 44th RTR or 1st Armoured bde in the OB for the Crusader Battle this is not too surprising as they came under command of the New Zealand Div and so we have to look at their movements -

    5th Bde Kiwis were attacking Fort Capuzzo on the 21st November - unsuccessfuly and 7th bde were heading towards Sidi Rezigh late on the 22nd arriving 15 miles short of Sidi Rezigh early on the 23rd - 'Totensonntag' - so it would appear that depending on which bde the 44th or his squadron was attached - L/Cpl Miller died between Fort Capuzzo and Sidi Rezigh...

    This from Barrie Pitt's "Crucible of War " vol 1 ISBN 1-55778-232-6

    Cheers
     
  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I'm often out of my depth on these unit-specific things, but Owen's asked me to have a shufti at the 'official' history of the RTR

    According to Liddell Hart's 'The Tanks', there was one small section of the 44th on other business on the 22nd of November that might be worth considering (my bold) :

    "A most striking example [of the effect of enemy AT Guns] was seen in the attack that the 42nd Royal Tanks made, along with the 7th Indian Infantry Brigade, on November the 22nd to smash the enemies twin frontier positions at Sidi Omar. (As C Squadron had not yet been sent up, a squadron of the 44th under L.H.Lee took it's place). Few Regiments have ever undergone such a shattering 'baptism of fire'..."

    There's then some brief description of the difficulties and achievements of the first phase of the attack on 'Omar Nuovo' (with praise from senior officers), before the 44th Squadron is mentioned again:
    "Libyan Omar was then tackled. Lee's squadron formed the first wave, but most of it was knocked out by 88s, it's commander and 19 others being killed. Pressing on indomitably, the 42nd eventually forced an entry, though part of the position remained in the enemy's hands. Only eleven tanks rallied out of the forty-eight employed in the twofold attack - a loss of 75 percent. Yet the human loss of the 42nd was only twenty-nine killed and twenty-three wounded, happily, whereas the two infantry battalions lost 261".

    I'll scan the couple of pages where 44th get a mention for the period in later today so those that follow regimentalist things better than I can have a look.

    A very quick search of Geoff's engine reveals 13 casualties for that date with '44' in the unit text box, who seem to be RTR men (haven't checked them all). That's very close to the figure stated by Liddell Hart and as there's no more 44th casualties that day maybe the above action is the one we're looking for?
    Checked one day on either side of that date, and no results turn up, so assuming the vagaries of CWGC listing might mean the other chaps that died have slightly different or missing info in the unit text box (or died from wounds over the next few days) we might be on a winner. (Lee himself, for instance, doesn't appear on this list.)

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    001 CHAPMAN, JP 7916533 22/11/1941
    002 DONALDSON, WE 179607 22/11/1941
    003 DYER, RF 7891607 22/11/1941
    004 HOLLAND, DH 7909776 22/11/1941
    005 HULME, W 7918079 22/11/1941
    006 MELLOR, DH 170567 22/11/1941
    007 MERRIN, BH 7896202 22/11/1941
    008 MILLER, AE 7908207 22/11/1941
    009 NASH, JG 7896324 22/11/1941
    010 PAINTER, PC 7908968 22/11/1941
    011 PHILLIPS, AE 7894014 22/11/1941
    012 TAYLOR, E 7892164 22/11/1941
    013 TUCKER, SI 7916945 22/11/1941

    Edit: checked them and all the above are RTR men.

    And by the way - Hello Mat! welcome aboard.

    Cheers,
    Adam.
     
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  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    If that chap did die with the Sqn that operated with 42 RTR on the Omars attack, I have an excellent description of the attack in my 4th Indian Div history.
    They went in with 1 R Sussex.
    I know Paul has that regt history so might be something in there too.

    EDIT: Here ya go.....

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  11. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    There isn't a history for the Royal Sussex for WW2, but I have the 4th Armoured Bde history which I will scan and post later. It has some maps in it.
     
  12. Mat McLachlan

    Mat McLachlan Junior Member

    Wow, I'm overwhelmed by the depth of knowledge on this forum. Thank you all for replying.

    I think I'll probably just suggest to the lady that she visits her dad's grave and has a look at Hellfire Pass. That's probably as much as there will be for her to see.

    Cheers,

    Mat
     
  13. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Mat -
    your friend would be well advised to journey to Cairo - and then traipse back to Sollum - now Sole'm - as Lybia is extremely difficult to enter - I have tried to get directions to the cemetery from CWGC but they don't seem to know where it is - Halfaya is a few miles east of Sollum and the cemetery is probably beween the two towns - I wouldn't go there without knowing exactly where it is .

    My son is touring Egpyt - he's down at Luxor this week and he might be able to catch Sollum before he heads home - if so I have asked him to go there and take a photo or two - I am awaiting his answer now...
    cheers
     
  14. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    This is what was occurring about the time of his death.

    18/11/1941
    At 6am 'Operation Crusader’, the British Eighth Army's offensive to relieve Tobruk begins. Rommel, who arrives back from Rome that day, is caught by surprise, allowing the British XXX Corps to advance 50-miles and capture the axis airfield 10 miles south of Sidi Rezegh. The Germans, believing that the British are about to encircle Bardia, send the Afrika Korps on a wild goose chase in that direction.

    20/11/1941
    The British garrison is ordered to break out and link up with XXX Corps. However, Rommel, now realizing the threat sent the Afrika Korps to attack at Sidi Rezegh.

    22/11/1941
    A confused battle continues around Sidi Rezegh, with XXX Corps being forced to stop it advance towards Tobruk after the loss of many tanks and for the Tobruk break-out to be halted. Better news for XIII Corps though as it captures Sidi Omar and Capuzzo.
     
  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    You may wish to speak to Kuno (a member). He lives in Libya and seems to know North Africa fairly well :D

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  16. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Drew and Spidge -
    Think all that has been covered from my message # 7 in that L/cpl was with 44RTR and the thought is that he was killed somewhere beween Fort Capuzzo and Sidi Resigh in the advance by the Kiwi 6th or 7th Brigade ...

    Kuno lives at Tripoli - a long way from there in fact the other end of Lybia

    Cheers
     
  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Tom,

    I was refering the the last part of Matt's post:
    Is there anything noteworthy (apart from the cemetery) to visit in the area?


    Cheers
    Andy
     
  18. BobKat14

    BobKat14 Member

    My mother's cousin, Robert Meikle is also buried at Halfaya Sollum Cemetery - see the thread on Meikle Twins Durham Light Infantry.

    I have found some drawings by the New Zealand Artist Jack Crippen of the area between El Alamein and Fort Capuzzo at Home | War Art Digitisation which you might find of interest.

    My thanks to Kieron Hill for the photogaphs of Sollum and Hellfire appearing earlier in this thread. It was in 1941 that the Meikle twins died at Fort Capuzzo and so these are also of interest to me.
     
  19. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Drew -
    Appreciate your comment hoiwever the drawing by the New Zealander of the junction of the roads to Tobruk - El Adam - Sollum would appear to sum up my contention that there was absolutely nothing noteworthy in the whole area - probably even the same to-day !

    Cheers
     
  20. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Bobcat 14
    Many thanks for locating - in the Meikle twins thread - the Halfaya - Sollum cemetery to the east on the coast road - must tell the CWGC as they don't seem to know where it is ....

    Cheers
     

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