I'm thinking that Germany may have been able to knock Russia out of the war right then and there but if we do something different. I want anyone interested on saying what you would you differently. The rules is simply try to use resources availiable to t he german army at the time. What I'm thinking is that once the Russians had begun their offencive and Army group center and south were in the process of halting the Russians at Orel and Kharkov, reserve divisions should've been brought up immediatly, about 8 infantry divisions and maybe 4 panzer divisions, more if any other reservers were availiable behind the lines. Now this is where I have to make a choice. Do I A: Wait for the russians to concentrate the bulk of their forces in the salient and away from Moscow or as soon as the Batle of Kharkov finished, pivote the bulk of my forces in Orel and strike north within a few days after of the arrival of reinforcements towards Moscow? Now, in my mind some 3000 aircraft should be gathered for this counter offencive to provide air suporiority and to strafe the russian rail system to hinder reinforcements going into Moscow. If in my mind Moscow could be taken then I know it would knock Russia out per say but would dislocate the command structure of the USSR until he government could make the transition to Kuibeshev of where ever they would move to, and would demoralize the Red Army. Now the question is what would you people do differenly. And not just for Kursk but for any particular battle in Russia.