HMS Elfreda

Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by ClaireM, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. ClaireM

    ClaireM Member

    This thread is going to contain everything I find out about HMS Elfreda, which is the ship that my grandfather served on between 4th November 1943 and 4th May 1945. I would be very grateful if you knowledgable people would comment on/explain anything I find out, as I am very new to this.

    She began life as HMS Elfreda (BAM 16) on 7/9/1942 in the U.S. but was renamed, reclassified and launched as USS Overseer (AM321) in Jan 1943. In June 1943 she reverted back to her original name and class.

    On 22nd Dec 1943 she was completed, delivered and transferred to Great Britain as HMS Elfreda (J.402), a Catherine Class Minesweeper. She had a crew of 105.

    She was struck from the Naval Register in Dec 1946, returned to the U.S. in June 1947, sold to Turkey in Nov 1947 and renamed TCG Cesme (M505). In 1974 she was struck from the Turkish Navy List and her fate is sadly unknown.

    Commander between 21st Dec1943 - 21st Sep 1946 was T/A/Lt.Cdr. Leonard Jolly, RNVR.

    Other crew:
    Charles E. Phillips - On board 10/2/1944-15/03/1944
    Ken Worthy - A Sonar Operator on board 20/4/1944-25/11/44
    My Grandfather, William Gedge - an Ordinary Telegrapher.

    Attached is her movement log for 1944-1945. Any explanations and comments on this would be gratefully received.
    View attachment Elfreda movement sheets.pdf

    I have also ordered the log for April, May, June & July of 1944 from the National Archives (Very expensive!!)

    I have also attached a picture of her between 1947-1974, when she was in the Turkish Navy - I don't know if there would have been many changes made to her.
    Elfreda (1947-1974).jpg
     
  2. Tim Moody

    Tim Moody New Member

    Hi Claire ,

    My father also served on HMS Elfreda , he was Jasper Joseph Moody and CMX97262 , Leading Wireman , I have been trying to find out more about the ship , his mates and also why he was mentioned in dispatches in the London Gazette 7th Dec 1945 page 6004 but I still don't know what for and sadly he has passed away now
    Any information would be most welcome

    Thanks
    Tim
     
  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

  4. Tim Moody

    Tim Moody New Member

    Thanks TD , I ordered one today off eBay and have added my fathers details on

    Photos of the ship are like hens teeth , I have managed to find 3 on the web

    Cheers
     
  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Yes I was having a look at Google images, but as you will know not every one is of the subject you want.

    Happy hunting
    TD
     
  6. john143

    john143 Member

    My father HORACE PRING was on HMS elfreda I don't know much other than he said they had mineswept ARROMANCHES during the war
     
  7. DAVID HOYLE

    DAVID HOYLE New Member

    I have the bell from the HMS Elfreda if you interested email me dave (at) davidhoyle.co.uk
     

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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Dave - not a good idea to give your email address out like that on a public forum - bet to replace @ with the word AT

    Will see if mods can change it

    TD
     
  9. Helen Phipps

    Helen Phipps New Member

    My father Harry Wedgbury served on HMS Elfreda and the family has a few photos of the ship and some crewe members, names of crewe members not known.
     
  10. john143

    john143 Member

    Hi helen i would love to have any information you have on HMS RLFREDA a
    As my dad horace pring served on the ship
     
  11. Chris Moody

    Chris Moody Member

    Hi Claire, as Tim my brother has said, our father Jasper Moody served on HMS Elfreda. I have been recording information on the ship for the last 20 or so years and would like anyeone who would like to contribute to a publication about the ship to get in touch. You can email me at

    scaldwellmoody at beet tee inter net dot com

    kind regards
    Chris
     
  12. Helen Phipps

    Helen Phipps New Member

    HMS Elfreda & Cynthia
     

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  14. Chris Moody

    Chris Moody Member

    Hi Helen, I like the photos you have just posted. Would it be possible to email me so I could discuss using them in a publication about the ship? I'd also like to check to see if I have any of your father in my crew photos.
    Chris Moody
    email as the post above yours
     
  15. Chris Moody

    Chris Moody Member

    Hi Helen, I like the photos you have just posted. Would it be possible to email me so I could discuss using them in a publication about the ship? I'd also like to check to see if I have any of your father in my crew photos.
    Chris Moody
    email as the post above yours
     
  16. Helen Phipps

    Helen Phipps New Member

    Hi Chris, sorry but any communication will need to be through this site.
     
  17. Chris Moody

    Chris Moody Member

    That's not a problem Hellen. Would you be able to scan the images flat on so I can see the people in them better. I have a few photos of the crew and would like to cross check them with mine?
    I presume your father is the gentleman next to the Elfreda sign. Can you let me know his full name and his position on the ship. I have a photo of a similar crew member but can't quite work it out yet.
     
  18. Chris Moody

    Chris Moody Member

    Hi John check out my facebook page for further details collected over the years on HMS Elfreda. I will be adding photos, drawings of the ship and equipment, crew photos and recollections as time goes by. Please feel free to add any information you might have.
    HMS Elfreda - J402 - Auk class Minesweeper
     
  19. john143

    john143 Member

    hi Chris i have just viewed your Elfreda facebook page, i was wondering if you have come across my fathers name at all his name is Horace Pring dont know what position he held tho
     
  20. Chris Moody

    Chris Moody Member

    Hi John, can you post a photograph of your father and I can have a look through my crew photos to see if I can see him. I'm going to be loading crew photos onto the facebook site in future days as I get around to it. You should be able to find out about your fathers service through
    Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services | The National Archives
    They should have an outline of his position, rank etc.
     

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