How A Right Can Make A Wrong. Hitler's Fateful Encounter with Pvt. Henry Tandey, VC An interesting article! Click Here
This story has been extensively discussed on the Great War Discussion Forum. I'm afraid that the general conclusion is that it is an Urban (or more correctly 'Trench') Legend. Apparently Tandey and Hitler were never in the same sector of the front at the same time, either in 1914 or 1918 despite what the article says. Also we know when Hitler was wounded and the dates simply don't match up with Tandey.There is also the confusion (mentioned in the article) that the painting doesn't depict the Marcoing incident at all, but that's another story.
I heard that Hitler got gassed in the great war and because of that near death experience he never again used gas in warfare in the second world war (Exept in concentraction camps of course) but that might also be a myth. Thanks. Jack
Hitler was almost killed Halloween 1914 when his regiment was decimated in the........... 1st battle of Yrpes I think. I don't know much about WW1.
Hitler was almost killed Halloween 1914 when his regiment was decimated in the........... 1st battle of Yrpes I think. I don't know much about WW1. I suppose another quote: Almost is not good enough!
I suppose another quote: Almost is not good enough! The guy was quite lucky in dodging death........ until he decided to PPK himself.
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How A Right Can Make A Wrong. Hitler's Fateful Encounter with Pvt. Henry Tandey, VC An interesting article! Click Here During the Munich crisis, when Hitler met Chamberlin, the place they met had a painting of Tandey in action winning the VC. Hitler recognised Tandey and told Chamberlin the story of his escape.
I heard that Hitler got gassed in the great war and because of that near death experience he never again used gas in warfare in the second world war (Exept in concentraction camps of course) but that might also be a myth. Thanks. Jack Hitler was gassed and suffered what the medics said was Hysterical Blindness. He was transferred to a Sanatorium in the rear because it was not a war wound.
Unfortunately, the story of Hitler. Chamberlain and the Tandey painting is as apocryphal as the original story, which as I mentioned on the second post on this thread has been extensively debated on the Great War Discussion Forum. Hitler did believe that he had survived the war miraculously, marking him out as a man of destiny (as incidentally did Winston Churchill), but Tandey did not figure in this. Tandey himself apparently had no recollection of meeting the future Fuhrer. The original article is a very good example of an apparently well-researched and authoritative account which breaks down on closer examination. According to a contributor on the Great War Forum, at least one of the sources quoted at the end of the article is bogus in itself. The internet has no shortage of such intriguing items which are not all they appear. Take for example the supposedly much-decorated military hero who, according to the newspapers today, is a fake who has never served in the forces. He was apparently the subject of a laudatory article on Wikipedia quoting amongst others General Sir Mike Jackson. The suspicion now of course is that he wrote the article himself. Unfortunately I know quite a few people who believe that if it's on Wikipedia it must be true!
During the Munich crisis, when Hitler met Chamberlin, the place they met had a painting of Tandey in action winning the VC. Hitler recognised Tandey and told Chamberlin the story of his escape. I believe that Hitler also discovered that he was opposite Anthony Eden in the trenches, and they discussed this at a conference. Eden nearly shot at Hitler.
Unfortunately, the story of Hitler. Chamberlain and the Tandey painting is as apocryphal as the original story, which as I mentioned on the second post on this thread has been extensively debated on the Great War Discussion Forum. The location of the painting was Berchtesgaden, he had aquired the painting from Col Earle, Tandeys commanding officer, See Col Earle The Green Howards Gazette 1937 for full details including details of the message sent by Hitlers adj to Col earle about the painting. During the meeting Hitler asked Chamberlin to to pass on his best wishes to Tandey, according to Tandeys nephew, Chamberlin telephoned one night to speak to him. See also, Godin, cited in Mauser, Hitler, op cit., p88 for comments from tandey himself regarding the incident.
I'm pretty sure that in such a horrible war, that a soldier sees and experiences such shoking experiences on a weekly if not daily basis. The fact that Hitler would have remebered one encounter as well as the facial traits of the enemy is not so believable especially in a moment of panic. I mean there are always people trying to somehow tie themselves to celebreties some way or another. For all I know i could claim that my Great-Grandfather Georges Coudière is the one who gave Hitler`s leg shrapnel wound, because he remembers having done a miscalculation of .001 degrees off at 3:31 PM on thursday october 9, 1918......oh and in Flandres....to me it sounds silly
Hitler was almost killed Halloween 1914 when his regiment was decimated in the........... 1st battle of Yrpes I think. Hitler was with the 16th Bavarian Reserve Regiment on October 29th 1914 in the Ghulevelt/Langemarck area (near Ypres). The Reserve Regiments had horrendous casualties so it is fair to say he had a lucky escape. This was the series of battles known by German propagandists as the Slaughter of the Innocents, where alledgedly they went into battle singing; Hitler's romanticised account of this appears in "Mein Kampf" and adds to the legend. adrian
I think there is no doubt that Hitler actually had a copy of the painting, but doubt has been cast on the Hitler/Chamberlain discussion of Tandey in 1938. I'd be interested in the quote from Mauser which records it. I raised the Tandey/Hitler story on the Great War Discussion Forum a few years ago, as I had read a version of it, very similar to the one on the internet, in a local history booklet called 'More Ripples From Warwickshire's Past' by Paul Bolitho (self-published, 1997). Unfortunately there aren't any footnotes or references, but he is a little cagey about the Hitler story describing it as 'according to legend', and mentioning the point made by others that Tandey himself had no recollection of meeting Adolf, either in 1914 or 1918. The balance of opinion regarding the tale from contributors to the GWDF, including Paul Reed, was that the Chamberlain/Hitler story was a newspaper fabrication. It would be interesting to get to the bottom of it, once and for all!
but he is a little cagey about the Hitler story describing it as 'according to legend', and mentioning the point made by others that Tandey himself had no recollection of meeting Adolf, either in 1914 or 1918. Unless, Tandey actually knew hitler, then it would normal for him not to have any recollection, because it would be to him, yet another german solider on a battlefield. Given that the story says that chamberlin phoned tandey, then there should be a record of both the call and what was said in the Downing Street archies or maybe even the national archive.
Would Chamberlain have phoned him though. Something like this one would have been sent via a telegram to Tandey surely. Can't imagine Mr Tandey get a shout from his wife. Who is it - O it is just the prime minister he wants a word. I think there is some literary licence involved here.
its said that hitler had an jewish officer who did not allow him to gain higher ranks because of "führungsuntauglichkeit".= because he wasnt a good leader(=Führer).
I've heard that Hitler was in his trench one day when a shell landed near him and some of his fellow soldiers. Everyone was killed in the resulting explosion...except Hitler. Lucky him, unlucky world.
