Gunner record abbreviations

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  1. GnrGnr

    GnrGnr Well-Known Member

    Two entries in a Gunner's record have me foxed.

    His attestation record has the note "disch para 234 (ii)" followed by a 1953 date. He went on the Z(T) reserve in 1946. He was not yet 45. I am completely clear on that, it is just the para 234(ii) I'd appreciate help with.

    In his AB 64, he is recorded as re-mustering (from driver) in the trade of as Gnr/OFC .(Group D class II) Everything there is clear except the OFC

    Both are completely clear, no mis-interpretation possible. Most grateful for translations please.

    Max

    PS Full record has been applied for.
     
  2. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    OFC: have seen this stand for Operator Fire Control with respect to the R.A.

    Here, for instance:
    Operator Fire Control
     
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  3. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    In relation to your first query you'll likely need to have sight of the "Army Rule Book" - Kings/Queens Regulations.

    There is a downloadable copy of the current QR in this link. You may even find that your quoted sub section is in the current QR's. If not you need to source an early 1950's version.

    It may help you to attract an expert if you amend your topic title to "1953 Kings/Queens Regulations" query.

    Good Luck

    Steve

    Queen's Regulations for the Army and the Royal Navy - a Freedom of Information request to Ministry of Defence
     
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  4. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Bang on Charley with Operator Fire Control. It also accords with dbf's List of Abbreviations in the Resource Section Updated Resource - Abbreviations & Acronyms
    As for para 234(ii) Steve is quite correct that this is a reference to King's Regulations giving the reason for discharge. Unfortunately this paragraph altered a lot from one edition to another. You will have to find a copy of the nearest one to 1953 which I suspect is 1950.

    Tim
     
  5. GnrGnr

    GnrGnr Well-Known Member

    Splendid, thanks to all three of you. I shall re-post for the earlier KRs as advised, the current QRs are very different to earlier versions - Jointery!)

    Max
     
  6. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    This document from one of our members has come in handy for me and may be worthwhile downloading by those who haven't seen it.

    Thank you, op-ack

    Glossary of Royal Artillery Terms and Abbreviations
    (Historical and Modern)
    Philip Jobson


    Introduction

    I have produced this book as a consequence of my personal interest in the language of the Royal Regiment. I have taken the terms and abbreviations from documents, books and training manuals in my possession and also from discussions with serving and retired gunners of all ranks. I initially started out to list just the abbreviations, but it soon became apparent to me that there were many historical terms that meant little or nothing to me. I therefore embarked on the production of this vade mecum of the Royal Regiment of Artillery, little knowing what a major drain on my time and patience it would become.

    I must particularly thank the staff at Firepower, the Royal Artillery Museum, in particular the Library staff and especially Mr Les Smith, the Keeper of Collections for his assistance and patience in answering my many and often, I am sure., to him obvious questions. I must also thank Peter Head, who has supplied a number of abbreviations and terms for inclusion in the book.

    Thanks are also due to Nigel Evans, whose website on the Royal Artillery In World War 2 is one of the inspirations for this book. Anyone with even the remotest interest in the role of the Artillery in the Second World War would be well advised to visit the site at http://members.tripod.com/~nigelef/

    Obviously, this is very much a work in progress, and I would welcome comments, suggestions, amendments and additions from readers. Please send these to me care of
    The Gunner.

    Section Headings

    The section headings are derived from the various phonetic alphabets used by the British Army since their first introduction in 1904. This first phonetic alphabet only covered the 6 commonly transposed letters. In 1914, DON was added for the letter ‘D’. A full phonetic alphabet was not introduced into the British Army until 1927. A full phonetic alphabet was introduced in June 1943 being standardised across the Allied Forces, this was changed to the current NATO phonetic alphabet in March 1956. Each heading therefore consists of the phonetic pronunciations together with the date(s) of the alphabets they appeared in.

    Document Here:
    Abbreviation Relevant to Gunnershttps://www.7fd-regt-raa-association.com › UK A...
     
  7. op-ack

    op-ack Senior Member

    Thanks for the plug Charlie. However, I have to say that is a very early version of my book, which was published without permission. I believe in word document terms it was only about 75 pages long. The book was some 240 A4 pages, although translated to 320 in actual page size. My current working document is. Some 780 A4 pages long. I am always happy to help with RA terminology. Copies of the book are still available from me if anyone wants one (Admin please remove the last if not allowed).
    Phil
     
  8. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Apologies.

    Had no idea it was a sneaky upload.

    Are you offering electronic versions or selling a print edition?
     
  9. op-ack

    op-ack Senior Member

    I have copies of the hardback, the original is available on Kindle via Amazon. PM sent
     

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