George Kenneth Scott Lauder, 5 AFPU

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  1. Lindsay1968

    Lindsay1968 Member

    I am trying to find military records for the above. He was born in 1924 and joined the army after 1940 we believe. All the info that we have is that he started out in signals but apparently was pretty hopeless with that and so they moved him to the new AFPU when that was set up and he was assigned to Unit 5. We still have some of his photos that I guess he wasn't supposed to have kept copies of. He saw the D-Day Landings, the liberation of Paris and the liberation of Belsen. He took photos at some of the war trials, and also took photos of Montgomery. I can see on the Imperial War Museum section of the AFPU that there's a Sgt. George Laws who looks exactly like George Lauder, so am now going to try that on Forces War Records, but if anyone knows anything else about this unit, I would be grateful! Thanks!!
    Lindsay
     
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  2. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

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  3. Hello Lindsay,
    Are you sure the last name is Lauder and not Laws?
    There are no films or photos by a George Lauder at the IWM, which is a pretty good indication that no George Lauder was a cameraman or photographer with the AFPU...
    Maybe you could post a few of his photos, of Monty for example, and we'll probably be able to tell you the name of the photographer to whom they are credited.
    Michel
     
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  4. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Dear Lindsay, and all.

    Hopefully not a red herring. Lauder is a family name (modern parlance) that has historic Jewish links so don't discount the possibility of a name change (to Laws) either chosen or advised.

    Good luck with finding a definitive answer.

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.
     
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  5. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    Lindsay1968,

    Here's a photo of Sergeant George Laws of 5 AFPU from Cameramen of War by Ian Grant (they worked together during Operation Goodwood.

    George Lauder's name is not mentioned in the book.

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  6. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

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  7. Excellent find Guy!

    I missed those two photos by GK Lauder.

    By the way, Sgt Laws also came from R Sigs.

    Michel
     
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  8. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Enough here to send off service records:

    Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
    First name(s) George Kenneth Scott
    Last name Lauder
    Death year 1992
    Death date 18 Sep 1992
    Probate year 1993
    Probate date 10 Feb 1993
    Residence town Croydon
    Registry Winchester
    County Surrey
    Country England

    Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
    First name(s) GEORGE KENNETH
    Last name LAUDER
    Gender Male
    Birth day 6
    Birth month 6
    Birth year 1924
    Age -
    Death quarter 3
    Death year 1992
    District Bromley
    Register number 992
    County Kent
    Volume 11
    Page 1006
    Country England

    1939 Register
    Name: George K Lauder
    Gender: Male
    Marital status: Single
    Birth Date: 6 Jun 1924
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: 151
    Residence Place: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
    Occupation: Clerk Engineering Works
    Line Number: 15
    Schedule Number: 238
    Sub Schedule Number: 3
    Enumeration District: GALI
    Borough: Newcastle-upon-Tyne
    Registration district: Newcastle-on-Tyne North
    Inferred Father: George Lauder
    Inferred Mother: Edith Lauder
     
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  9. Lindsay1968

    Lindsay1968 Member

    Oh thank you so much for this!!
    Oh thanks so much for this!! I really appreciate it!
    Lindsay
     
  10. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Just came across this thread the IWM actually hold hundreds of Photographs credited to Sergt G K Lauder . Just input `LAUDER` as below and the images start at image six and go to around page 9 ?


    Search our collection | Imperial War Museums


    Kyle
     
  11. That's great Kyle !

    This search can be refined by clicking on the photographer's name ("Creator") to show only photos shot by "Sergeant G.K. Lauder" (as opposed to all photos whose description contains the word "Lauder"). 211 of them apparently, all shot within the 1945-1989 time frame:

    Search our collection | Imperial War Museums

    One only has to find one such photo to find the rest, but I somehow miserably failed to do so ! :blush:

    Michel
     
  12. And there's a trick, because he also is listed as "Lauder GK (Sergeant)", yielding 17 additional photos:

    Search our collection | Imperial War Museums

    so I guess searching for just "Lauder" as you did is the safe way to go so as not to miss any of his photos, in case yet another way is used to classify his pics !

    Michel
     
  13. Lindsay1968

    Lindsay1968 Member

    Tony, this is great, thank you. I always thought you had to have a service number to request this. Thanks for the info!
    Lindsay

    QUOTE="Tony56, post: 893997, member: 18099"]Enough here to send off service records:

    Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
    First name(s) George Kenneth Scott
    Last name Lauder
    Death year 1992
    Death date 18 Sep 1992
    Probate year 1993
    Probate date 10 Feb 1993
    Residence town Croydon
    Registry Winchester
    County Surrey
    Country England

    Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
    First name(s) GEORGE KENNETH
    Last name LAUDER
    Gender Male
    Birth day 6
    Birth month 6
    Birth year 1924
    Age -
    Death quarter 3
    Death year 1992
    District Bromley
    Register number 992
    County Kent
    Volume 11
    Page 1006
    Country England

    1939 Register
    Name: George K Lauder
    Gender: Male
    Marital status: Single
    Birth Date: 6 Jun 1924
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: 151
    Residence Place: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
    Occupation: Clerk Engineering Works
    Line Number: 15
    Schedule Number: 238
    Sub Schedule Number: 3
    Enumeration District: GALI
    Borough: Newcastle-upon-Tyne
    Registration district: Newcastle-on-Tyne North
    Inferred Father: George Lauder
    Inferred Mother: Edith Lauder
    [/QUOTE]
    T
     
  14. Lindsay1968

    Lindsay1968 Member

    Mr Jinks, I've tried to message you, along with my message to Michel and Guy. Can you PM me please? Thanks so much! Lindsay
     

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