Convoy ETP1

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  1. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Does anyone know the names of the 9 personnel ships which made up this convoy. It seems to be the only personnel convoy sailing from the Thames (Tilbury?) during the immediate post D day period. I assume that the ships then joined the Shuttle Service across the Channel from the Solent.

    Thanks in advance for any information.

    Mike
     
  2. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    If the link doesnt work go to convoyweb and search the shorter convoys etp1 is on there.
     
  3. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Thank you very much. I have looked it up and noted the information.

    Mike
     
  4. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    For those who know as little of naval affairs as do I. Naval experts please ignore my simple efforts.

    CONVOY ETP1.

    Convoy ETP1 (E-England, T-Thames, P-Personnel, No1) was a convoy of large personnel ships loading at Tilbury and sailing with escorts from Southend, and then on to the Solent area and across the Channel to France. It would have to pass through the Straits of Dover where it would be under observation from the French Coast and within range of the big Cross Channel guns of the enemy shore batteries. For a long period of time only coasters had run this gauntlet.

    The convoy consisted of the smaller, 1500 tons approx., Batavier II and New Bedford, and the larger, 10,000 to 15,000 tons approx., Cameronia, Cheshire, City of Canterbury, Devonshire, Lancashire, Leopoldville, Neuralia and Worcestershire. The larger ships carried up to 2,600 troops each.

    The convoy successfully passed through the Straits at 1700 hours on D Day. Smoke screens had been laid by motor launches and aircraft and shore based radio counter measures were used. Thus although the enemy must have suspected a sizeable target they lacked the means of ranging on it. Anxiety had been increased when earlier in the day Sambar, a MT Liberty ship of convoy ETM1, had been shelled, burnt out and abandoned.

    An unfortunate confusion caused Neuralia to be overlooked and she failed to sail across the Channel as planned. She apparently remained at anchor in the Solent until the afternoon of D+5. No one on the far shore seems to have noticed her non arrival and the naval staff at Portsmouth did not notice her non departure.

    Mike
     
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  5. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    D1 troops of 5th Camerons, 51st HD and their transport were on the Cheshire and Lancashire and set sail from off Southend 6th June. Landing early afternoon 7th June. The D7 party landed on +17, D+14 party landed 30th june.
     
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  6. Tricky Dicky

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    Convoy ETP.1
    From: SOUTHEND Tuesday, 6 June 1944.
    To: SEINE BAY Wednesday, 7 June 1944.
    BATAVIER II Du 1,573 1920
    CAMERONIA Br 16,297 1920 2684 TROOPS
    CHESHIRE Br 10,552 1927 THEN SEINE BAY/UK FERRY SERVICE
    CITY OF CANTERBURY Br 8,331 1922
    DEVONSHIRE Br 11,275 1939 1979 TROOPS THEREAFTER OP NEPTUNE TO 4.9
    LANCASHIRE Br 9,557 1917
    LEOPOLDVILLE Bel 11,509 1929 2115 TROOPS
    NEURALIA Br 9,182 1912
    NEW BEDFORD Br 1,595 1928
    WORCESTERSHIRE Br 11,402 1931 2635 TROOPS

    Arnold Hague convoy database - misc convoys
    TD
     
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  7. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    Great stuff, the British Liberty ship that was shelled, set on fire and abandoned was the Sambut
     
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  9. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    A little more: at some point this convoy divided, presumably after transiting the Straits of Dover. Six ships were routed via the Solent to join convoy EWP1 (the W = Wight). They were the Hospital Carriers Batavier II and New Bedford; plus the troopers Cameronia, Leopoldville, Neuralia (which was overlooked!) and Worcestershire. The other four seem to have gone directly to Normandy, still as ETP1.
     
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  10. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    'Curiouser and curiouser':
    Convoy EWP.1 From Convoyweb

    From: SOLENT Wednesday, 7 June 1944.
    To: SEINE BAY Thursday, 8 June 1944.

    Vessel Flag Tons Built Pdt. Cargo Notes
    HMHC BATAVIER II Du 1,573 1920
    BIARRITZ Br 2,388 1915
    CAMERONIA Br 16,297 1920
    DEVONSHIRE Br 11,275 1939
    EMPIRE ARQUEBUS Br 7,177 1944
    EMPIRE CROSSBOW Br 7,177 1944
    HMS ADVENTURE
    HMS DESPATCH
    HMS SOUTHERN PRINCE
    LEOPOLDVILLE Bel 11,509 1929 THEREAFTER SEINE BAY FERRY SERVICE
    NEURALIA Br 9,182 1912
    HMHC NEW BEDFORD Br 1,595 1928
    WORCESTERSHIRE Br 11,402 1931
    As we know Neuralia didn't sail because of a 'mix-up'. The two Empire LSIs had landed their troops shortly after dawn on the 6th and were obviously going across with their second batch of 1,310 troops, having had their lost LCAs replaced: I don't have my list of lost LCAs to hand, but I seem to remember that all the LSIs lost some.
     
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  11. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    Found it now: Arquebus lost four (out of 18) and Crossbow lost three.
     

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