Abbreviations in Service Records (UK/ Army/ WWII) : For ref.

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  1. sjw8

    sjw8 Well-Known Member

    Hi Graham

    Just seen your post above.

    Re the entry "2.FB.DBRE 15.1.42", it does indeed refer to a Royal Engineers Depot Battalion (even though battalion is normally thought of as infantry). "FB" in this instance stands for "Field Branch" which dealt with soldiers' postings and movements. Later in the war it changed title from "Field Branch - FB to "Postings Branch - PB", based in Halifax.

    In your father's case, from the extract you posted, he was originally with 17 Field Company. He was then earmarked to go to North Africa so therefore was temporarily attached to 2 (FB) DBRE w.e.f. 15.1.42, pending transfer etc., and from which a Posting Order was issued - "FB/5/16 [???} RGHFZ 14.2.42" - indicating which draft he was to join (RGHFZ) and date. He was then medically examined to confirm his fitness to serve overseas. (He may been on pre-embarkation leave between 15/1/42 and 14/2/42 - if so, this should be recorded on the documents you received).

    On arrival he was then posted to list X(iv) (i.e held in a reinforcement unit - RHU) pending his posting to 4 Field Squadron.

    if you want more information re 17 Field Company, there is a thread under Royal Engineers within Unit Histories sub forum - 17th Field Company Royal Engineers

    There is also the following re 4 Field Squadron - 4 Field Squadron, Royal Engineers war diary

    From one RE Sapper's son to another,
    Hope this helps,

    Steve W a.k.a. sjw8
     
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  2. Graham Anstey

    Graham Anstey Member

    Thanks very much Steve, that confirms much of what I've been able to decode. I did find that the war diaries for both 17 Fld Coy and 4 Fld Sqn are held by the National Archives, but it appears they are sealed until 2050. I'll investigate the links you provided. I'm hoping to be able to tie up his service with the more general Desert Rats history as published in the many books I have.
     
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  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Are you reading the 'sealed for 29 years' comment on TNA website.
    That refers to 29 years from when they were written .
    Not 29 years from now.
     
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  4. Graham Anstey

    Graham Anstey Member

    Aha! Thanks Owen. Yes, I was, and interpreting it as from now. That's good news, now I just need to wait for Kew to reopen.
    Cheers
     
  5. JCD

    JCD Member

    Hi, I've come across an abbreviation relating to punishments for minor offences that I cannot find an explanation for; PB, it seems to be followed by 'Serial No 2 or 4'. This refers to incidents that occured when based in the UK. Does anyone have any knowledge of exactly what this refers to?
     
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  6. RuthWoodhouse

    RuthWoodhouse Patron Patron

    I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to produce and post this. The information is super helpful
     
  7. Tony Baws

    Tony Baws New Member

    I have just joined this site and am grateful for the wealth of information to be found. I have my late step-father-in-law's service record and am puzzled by entries showing him in category X (vi) , also shown later as X(6). The useful list of X categories stops at X(v). He is shown as X(vi) on discharge to 1/LIR 14 January 1944 after a one day stay in field hospital, then back to X(iv) on the 20th as 'Missing in action, then as POW in German hands on the same date. The next entry is on 21 April as POW, now shown as S.O.S X(6). On 23rd April he disembarked UK and posted to Y list.

    Any information would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  9. 4jonboy

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  10. Robbo2

    Robbo2 Member

    Hi
    What does posted to y list E mean in Army terms (S.C.U no1) Whaddon hall
    And s.o.s after being in NWE for a year? Struggling to read my grandads service record?
     
  11. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Y-List: this was composed of 'non-effectives' with a listing of 1 to 8 sick, detention, leave pending discharge etc'.

    It includes Other Ranks (non-officers) evacuated to hospital from overseas—which might be the case here.

    S.O.S. : Struck off Strength (removed from the roll of).

    NWE: North-West Europe.

    SCU can mean a few different things. As always, post images of the full-pages here and we will give you chapter and verse.
     
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