86th Field Regiment R.A.

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  1. pb521021

    pb521021 Junior Member

    Interested in any info about this regiment my father served with them from D-Day till 21st Oct 1944. Already have some details from web but still interested in any more
  2. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    I think I have some details from their War Diary somewhere; if you don't have this, I will see if I can find it?

    I expect you already know they have a memorial in Normandy? Below is a photo of it.
  3. Julian Whippy

    Julian Whippy Junior Member

    Rather a delayed post but have you seen the book
    " D-Day to Arnhem With Hertforshires Gunners" It is a personal account of Major Robert Kiln. Very good and comprehensive

  4. Kiwiwriter

    Kiwiwriter Very Senior Member

    Originally posted by pb521021@Dec 29 2004, 12:21 PM
    Interested in any info about this regiment my father served with them from D-Day till 21st Oct 1944. Already have some details from web but still interested in any more
    [post=30328]Quoted post[/post]
    Welcome to the boards, and good luck in your quest.
  5. pb521021

    pb521021 Junior Member

    I have a signed copy of the book D Day to Arnhem by Major Robert Kiln. My father is listed incorrectly as AGK Borrell on page 199 instead of AK Birrell but despite that error for which the late Major Kiln did apologise it is an interesting book. I retraced some of their route through Normandy in 1996/7
  6. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    Interested in any info about this regiment my father served with them from D-Day till 21st Oct 1944. Already have some details from web but still interested in any more

    I realise this is an old thread but rather than start a new one I`m posting the relevant link here.I have just been directed to this site by a friend,well worth a visit for anyone interest in this unit or events from D-Day to their end of the War in Europe.
    341 BATTERY
    3 JUNE 1944 TO 9 APRIL 1946


    Battery diary, 341 Battery, 86th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery, 1944 to 1946; compiled by Lt Sidney Beck
    apologies if this link has been posted before I did search but could`nt find a previous post with it in.
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I just stumbled on this and thought it maybe of interest to some members.

    One of the many problems connected with the planning of D-Day was the best means of giving fire-support to the assaulting infantry during the approach run to the beaches. Bombing did not meet the case, Naval gunfire would not be sufficient nor concentrated enough, the infantry could not support themselves as they normally would in the last stages of an attack. It looked as though the infantry would have to cover the last few thousand yards to the beaches without any protection from the enemy until someone had a happy idea. Why not put the Field guns into landing craft and let them fire over the heads of the craft carrying the infantry until they reached the beaches?

    The 86th (Hertfordshire Yeomanry) Field Regiment R.A. under the command of Lt. Col. G.D. Fanshawe R.A. (later Brigadier G.D. Fanshawe D.S.O., O.B.E., R.A.) were given the task of perfecting the technique of firing from moving ships, a role never before allotted to the Royal Artillery and justifying once again its motto “Ubique”. The first experiments were carried out at Poole, in Studland Bay, in July 1943 using 25 pdr. guns on a Valentine tank chassis shackled in the hold of Landing Craft (Tanks) (L.C.Ts). Later a demonstration was given to the Master Gunner of St. James, Field Marshal Lord Milne, who travelled in the LCT carrying the four guns of B Troop of 341 Battery and watched the Regiment’s fire concentrated on the beaches while the LCTs steamed at 6 knots towards the target area. The fire was directed on to the target by a Forward Observation Officer (FOO) travelling in a small assault craft ahead of the LCTs and in wireless contact. The LCTs were kept on their correct line of approach by wireless signals from an accompanying motor launch fitted with radar.

    The success of the idea was assured. It only remained to perfect the technique and train the infantry and artillery to co-operate. Further demonstrations and experiments were carried out at Kilmarnock and Tignabruich. After experiments with American equipment (the Priest 105 mm S.P. Gun) the Regiment was finally equipped with their assault guns - Sextons (25 pdr. guns mounted on a Ram tank chassis). In April and May 1944 final exercises were carried out in Studland Bay, co-operating with the infantry in realistic representations of D-Day under the watchful eye of General Montgomery. Here the problems of water-proofing, loading and unloading were all tackled and solved. By the middle of May 1944 everyone knew his job......

    Battery diary, 341 Battery, 86th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery, 1944 to 1946; compiled by Lt Sidney Beck
  8. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Ooopps sorry Jim and thanks Rob. :)
  10. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

  11. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Another one of those spooky coincidences: today, I received the substantial 'official' histories of the Herts Yeo in WW2. Contents pages are reproduced (poorly) below if you wish to know what's inside. Both are well illustrated with official and unit photos and both cover the hardware.

    Copies of these and related titles are available from the author - Col J D Sainsbury - for very reasonable prices (so reasonable that I don't get any commission). If anyone with an account would like to crosspost the WW1 ones on GWF, please do.

    Without more ado, here's the list:

    The Hertfordshire Yeomanry: 1794-1920
    aka Volume I
    240 pages - Hart Books - 094852703X - 978-0948527036

    The Hertfordshire Batteries, Royal Field Artillery: 1908-1920
    aka Volume II
    116 pages - Hart Books - 0948527048 - 978-0948527043

    The Hertfordshire Yeomanry Regiments, Royal Artillery: The Field Regiments, 1920-1946 Pt. 1
    aka Volume III
    290 pages - Hart Books - 0948527056 - 978-0948527050
    86 Fd Regt RA (NW Europe in D-Day); 135 Fd Regt RA (Malaya & Singapore); 191 Fd Regt RA (NW Europe)

    The Hertfordshire Yeomanry Regiments, Royal Artillery: H.A.A. Regiment, the Searchlight Battery and the Post-war Units Pt. 2 and 3
    aka Volume IV
    350 pages - Hart Books - 0948527064 - 978-0948527067
    79 HAA Regt RA; 334 S/L Bty RA

    Hertfordshire Yeomanry and Artillery Honours and Awards
    152 pages - Hart Books - 0948527099 - 978-0948527098

    A Bibliographic List of Officers of the Hertfordshire Yeomanry, 1794- 1920
    Hart Books - 0948527072 - 978-0948527074

    The Home Guard in Hertfordshire 1952-1957
    114 pages - Hart Books - 0948527102 - 978-0948527104

    Herts V.R.: An Account of the Hertfordshire Volunteer Regiment, 1914-1921
    Hart Books - 0948527080 - 978-0948527081

    Prices include UK P&P. I didn't ask if Col Sainsbury would post internationally so it would be best to enquire; payment might be an issue.

    If ordering more than one book at once, deduct £1.50 for each extra book.

    Please make cheques payable to J D Sainsbury at:
    Hart Books (Welwyn):
    6 Roundwood Drive, Welwyn Garden City, Herts, AL8 7JZ
    Tel: 01707 390815

    n.b. the dates on the Home Guard volume are not a typo on my part - can't explain them yet.

    Attached Files:

  12. Earthican

    Earthican Senior Member

    Updated web address and a bump for another nice D-Day plus 70 read.


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