Yewchoob. (Non-WW2)

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  1. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    That is my favorite wing of my favorite museum.

    Here is how the entrance looked in 2013 when we took my mother down to see a visiting medieval tapestry exhibit


    This is a Colt that is one of three that Samuel Colt gave to Nicholas I on a trip to Russia in 1854. He was trying to land a contract. It's number 12406. 12407 is in The Hermitage.


    Some other treasures. The ivory stocked flintlock pistols in the case behind and to the right of the picture belonged to Catherine the Great. They also have a pair of cap lock dueling pistols that belonged to a young Franz Joseph I. They're 'working grade' but working grade for an emperor is still pretty fancy.



    If you ever get to New York City try to visit. It is really great. They have wings devoted to musical instruments, furniture, tapestries etc, in addition to all the great paintings and sculptures

    The Metropolitan Museum of Art
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  2. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Here is some more information on the Metropolitan's armor collection. It references the great silent film Ltdan posted.

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  3. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    I've been watching a number of the Jonesy's Jukebox videos on line recently. This is the radio show of Steve Jones from the Sex Pistols, who has lived in the Los Angeles area of California since the early 1980s and his interviews with a whole host of musical guests. They can be a bit hit or miss, but on the whole are extremely interesting:

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  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Adam Savage behind the scenes at the Met's armour collection has been quite interesting, Dave.

    Properly nerdy Ferrari F40 restoration/preservation from Tyrrell's workshop:
    No shouting, no created drama. Grown-ups who know what they're about:
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  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Americans are quite mad.

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  6. Andsco

    Andsco Well-Known Member

    Absolute bonkers, but!!! Don't we all like a good car wreck, used to go to a lot of stock car racing when I was younger, particularly enjoyed the banger racing:screwy:
  7. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

    I never thought anyone would convince me that the problem with British Leyland cars was that they were too well engineered, but this guy did:

    Really fascinating stuff.
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  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    To reiterate.
    Grown-up fancy car man.
    The antithesis of shouty youtube nonsense.
    Nice that he's on there, as many will recognise the name, and I'm quite sure he doesn't have to participate.

    Tyrell's Classic Workshop.

    Haynes (Yes, that Haynes) 250GT:
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  9. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

    Some interesting "revisionist" overviews of British Leyland cars:

    I have to say that these chime in with my childhood memories, in which these cars were fairly ubiquitous and just seen as pretty ordinary vehicles - not especially good, not especially bad. The whole mythology of BL cars being awful is generally nothing more than a post-hoc meme.
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  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Watched the Allegro and Princess one.
    I like that chap. Serious sensible revisionist/clear view.
    Really interesting, if slightly bamboozling as to what I thought was a normal car as a kid. The finish...
    Surprised at the Allegro headrests. I used to think headrests were a sign of fanciness... faulty memory says only Volvos and Rover SD1s had headrests. :unsure:
    Granny had a Princess once. An aberration from her usual yearly purchase of 'sporty' Citroens. even as kids we liked its crazy looks, but did think it was shit compared to wafty GSs and Plastic BX sports.
    Maybe she had a techie fetish with odd suspensions... The things you don't know as kids...

    I do have some cynicism with the optimistic view, though.
    Some genuinely interesting and clever designers being damped down by management, Government and Unions is more the BL story.
    And what would you buy at the time. A brown high spec Allegro, or a metallic purple Cortina II with a vinyl roof. (Yeah. Dad had one as one of many company cars.Never started in the cold, even from new, but was definitely seen as a bit racy.)

    All this is why I watch more yewchoob than normal TV.
    That chap, and 100 others, can convincingly nerd out and entertain me more than any number of tiresome overpaid celebs.
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  11. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

    This is the dialectic in action:

    Thesis: BL cars were shit
    Antithesis: BL cars were actually great
    Synthesis: They had their good points and bad points compared to their direct competitors

    The trouble is that this dialectic should have happened 50 years ago, but the people with the Thesis had a foghorn. I think the basic problem British industry had in the late post-war era was the exchange rate, which made British-manufactured goods either too expensive to produce, or only rendered competitive by corner-cutting. All the visible problems flowed downstream from there. I well remember that brief explosion in manufacturing activity that happened after Black Wednesday, which confirmed to me what the underlying problem was.

    BMC had the best selling car in the UK for 12 years on the trot and still lost money, while Jaguar sold cars like hot cakes in the USA and also still lost money. Doesn't matter how clever you are if the value of Sterling is 2x or 3x that of other currencies.
  12. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Casual stroll around the US Ordnance factory.
    M2s, SAWs testing facility etc. etc.
    Quite interesting.

  13. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Interesting about the firearms etc at the Met. I had no idea that was there. I have only visited once and I exhausted myself happily looking at all the Greek and Roman stuff.

    I recently watched The Battle of San Pietro (US WW2 documentary) and then realized the director and narrator was John Huston. The Maltese Falcon, The African Queen, etc. That led me to this interview between him and Canadian cinema expert Elwy Yost back in the 70s or 80s I suppose.

  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Interesting lecture regarding Vasa's cannon.
    Watched it after seeing these images in the book I bought on Vasa, lecture by the author.

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  15. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

    Never knew about this:

  16. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

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  17. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Chap from a tracker company hunts down down mini diggers nicked by scumbags.
    (Anyone that steals things is a C, but stealing tools is the work of a C-&-a-half.)

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  18. Owen

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  19. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Here's the complete field for the 2023 Antique Automobile Club of America car show arriving. All must be in original or restored to original condition with no modifications and be driven onto the show field.

    By the 30 minute mark it is pouring rain. I think it's even better seeing them driven in the rain. I got there after they were all on the field and the rain had stopped.


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