WW2 WAR MEMORIALS [not graves]

Discussion in 'War Cemeteries & War Memorial Research' started by glosterman, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. Pike

    Pike Senior Member

    Urgh,
    I'm not sure if you have been pointed in the right direction already,
    Not positive,but i'd think you would need to go through Commonwealth War Graves Commission to take up a missed name to be put on a Memorial.
    I don't have the address or number but i know they are based at Leamington Spa,i'm sure they'd help.
     
  2. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    HI glosterman,

    Do you have a photo of this memorial that I can have ???

    SPECIAL AIR SERVICE, S.O.E
    G.H.Q. LIASON REGIMENT WAR MEMORIAL

    Cheers
    Tom
     
  3. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

  4. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    Hi TomTas

    I live not to far from the National Memorial Arboretum. When the weather gets better, I will go and take a photo
    GM

    Going to Arbotetum Wednesday 8th
     
  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Monuments: Armed Conflict

    Robert Neill: To ask the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government what guidance has been issued to local authorities on protection of war memorials from redevelopment. [288286]
    John Healey: General guidance on planning and the historic environment is in planning policy guidance (PPG) note 15. This highlights the need for the historic environment to be fully taken into account both in the formulation of local authorities’ planning policies and in development control. It also includes specific guidance on listed building control, which is relevant for war memorials that have been listed. A consultation document on a revised planning policy statement to replace PPG 15 and PPG 16 (archaeology and planning) will be published very shortly.
    House of Commons Hansard Written Answers for 21 July 2009 (pt 0126)
     
  6. urqh

    urqh Senior Member

    Urgh,
    I'm not sure if you have been pointed in the right direction already,
    Not positive,but i'd think you would need to go through Commonwealth War Graves Commission to take up a missed name to be put on a Memorial.
    I don't have the address or number but i know they are based at Leamington Spa,i'm sure they'd help.

    Thanks Pike.. They have got a Brit Legion guy helping them out now so hopefully will be sorted.
     
  7. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    Wrenbury Church War Memorial Window Cheshire
    Compiled with additional information by kind permission of the
    Commonwealth War Graves Commission
    Located in St Margarets Church
    ELEY Frederick Eric, Flying Officer 145829, 619 Squadron Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve,died 30th August 1944aged 29. Son of Frederick and Catherine of Stafford and husband of Mary Teresa of Stafford. Commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial Surrey

    GRIFFITHS Thomas William, WO2,[ CSM] 2654411 Coldstream Guards died 14th September 1944 aged 33. Son of Thomas and Marion Essie of Wrenbury. Buried at Leopoldsburg War Cemetery, Belgium

    HAND George Edward, Aircraftman 2nd Cl 1164746, 220 Squadron Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, died 25th January 1941. Son of George Edward and Lily of Wrenbury. Buried at St Eval Churchyard, Cornwall

    JONES Vincent. Unable to select the correct Vincent listed with the CWGC

    SHEWARD Kenneth George, Pilot Officer, Air Gunner 146274, 77th Squadron Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve,died 1st September 1943 aged 20. Son of Harold and Edith of Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire. Buried at Reichswald Forest War Cemetery, Kleve, Germany This memorial has Kenneth, the CWGC on have one Kenneth [George] and 9 Sheward's listed

    THOMAS John William, Private 14393971, 2nd Border Regiment died 14th May 1944 aged 33. Son of Charles and Louise of Wrenbury and husband of Elsie May also of Wrenbury. Buried at Imphal War Cemetery, India

    PARKER Frank [could be this one] Ordinary Seaman C/JX204391 H.M.S Greyhound Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve died 22nd May 1941 aged 21. Son of John Thomas and Gertrude of Sound, Cheshire. Commemorated on the Chatham Naval Memorial, Kent

    WRIGHT Arthur, Private 2934657, 1st Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders died 13th April 1944 aged 28. Son of James and Maty, husband of Annie of Aston, Nantwich, Cheshire. Buried at Kohima War Cemetery, India
     
  8. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    ELEY Frederick Eric, Flying Officer 145829, 619 Squadron Raoya Air Force Volunteer Reserve,died 30th August 1944aged 29. Son of Frederick and Catherine of Stafford and husband of Mary Teresa of Stafford. Commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial Surrey

    29-30 August 1944

    619 squadron
    Lancaster III LM656 PG-M
    Op. Konigsberg

    Took off 2036 hrs from Dunholme Lodge. Lost without trace.


    Konigsberg raid 29-30 August 1944

    189 Lancasters of No 5 Group carried out one of the most successful No 5 Group attacks of the war on Königsberg at extreme range. Only 480 tons of bombs could be carried because of the range of the target but severe damage was caused around the 4 separate aiming points selected. This success was achieved despite a 20 minute delay in opening the attack because of the presence of low cloud; the bombing force waited patiently, using up precious fuel, until the marker aircraft found a break in the clouds and the Master Bomber, Wing Commander J Woodroffe, probably No 5 Group's most skilled Master Bomber, allowed the attack to commence. Bomber Command estimated that 41 per cent of all the housing and 20 per cent of all the industry in Königsberg were destroyed. There was heavy fighter opposition over the target and 15 Lancasters, 7.9 per cent of the force, were lost.
     
  9. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    HAND George Edward, Aircraftman 2nd Cl 1164746, 220 Squadron Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, died 25th January 1941. Son of George Edward and Lily of Wrenbury. Buried at St Eval Churchyard, Cornwall

    25 January 1941.

    Two serious raids took place on St. Eval airfield, when bombs of all types were used; An raid-raid shelter received a direct hit, more than twenty service personnel were killed and many others, including civilians, were injured. Eleven of the dead were buried in St. Eval Churchyard, others in St. Columb Cemetery’s Services plot. Some bombs fell in the “decoy” area and did no damage.
     
  10. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    SHEWARD Kenneth George, Pilot Officer, Air Gunner 146274, 77th Squadron Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve,died 1st September 1943 aged 20. Son of Harold and Edith of Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire. Buried at Reichswald Forest War Cemetery, Kleve, Germany This memorial has Kenneth, the CWGC on have one Kenneth [George] and 9 Sheward's listed

    (Listed as P/O. K G. Sheward)

    31 August 1943

    77 squadron
    Halifax II JD413 KN-G
    Op. Berlin

    Took off 2016 hrs from Elvington. (No other details on this loss)

    Berlin raid 31 August/1 September 1943

    622 aircraft - 331 Lancasters, 176 Halifaxes, 106 Stirlings, 9 Mosquitos carried out a further attack on Berlin.
    This raid was not successful. There was some cloud in the target area; this, together with difficulties with H2S equipment and probably the ferocity of the German defences, all combined to cause the Pathfinder markers to be dropped well south of the centre of the target area and the Main Force bombing to be even further away. The main bombing area eventually extended 30 miles back along the bombers' approach route. After this raid, Gauleiter Goebbels ordered the evacuation from Berlin of all children and all adults not engaged in war work to country areas or to towns in Eastern Germany where air raids were not expected. 47 aircraft - 20 Halifaxes, 17 Stirlings, 10 Lancasters - lost, 1.6 per cent of the force. The Stirling casualties were 16.0 per cent! Approximately two thirds of the bombers lost were shot down by German fighters operating over or near Berlin. The use of 'fighter flares', dropped by German aircraft to 'mark' the bomber routes into and away from the target, was noted for the first time in Bomber Command records.
     
  11. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    Hi TomTas

    I have posted some images of the memorial you are after

    Any person whishing to download these images, [not for monetary gain] feel free do so

    GM
     

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  12. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Wrenbury Church War Memorial Window Cheshire
    Compiled with additional information by kind permission of the
    Commonwealth War Graves Commission
    Located in St Margarets Church

    GRIFFITHS Thomas William, WO2,[ CSM] 2654411 Coldstream Guards died 14th September 1944 aged 33. Son of Thomas and Marion Essie of Wrenbury. Buried at Leopoldsburg War Cemetery, Belgium

    GM,
    Do you have a photo of the memorial / or this man's name on it. I would very much appreciate a copy for my website - if that were possible.
    Regards,
    Diane
     
  13. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    HI Alf,

    Thanks for that and here's the reason why I wanted them...

    Cheers
    Tom
     

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  14. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi All,

    Some time last year when out on my bike saw this in the middle of the woods.. There is a path leading up to that and its Oxshott Epsom way..

    Cheers
    Tom
     

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  15. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    This memorial is at The National Memorial Arboretum, Alrewas, Staffordshire.

    It is well worth a visit

    I have attached 4 images of the memorial
     

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  16. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    CHANNEL PILOTS – WAR MEMORIAL
    NATIONAL MEMORIAL ARBORETUM
    ALREWAS, STAFFORDSHIRE

    Compiled with additional information by kind permission of the
    Commonwealth War Graves Commission

    Trinity House Pilotage Service
    London District Channel Pilots
    1914-1918
    REDMAN Hubert James Pilot (North Channel) Lighthouse and Pilotage Authorities, S.S. "Pomeranian." H.M. Coastguard died 15th April 1918. Commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial, London

    SWORD J Not listed with the CWGC

    VINCETT B J Not listed with the CWGC

    WALKER Claude Bennett Lieutenant, Royal Naval Reserve, H.M.S. Perdita, died 18th May 1918. Awared the D.S.C. Buried at Woodlands Cemetery, Gillingham, Kent [Note, this may not be the correct person]

    1939-1945
    ANDREWS R Not listed with the CWGC

    BRUCE William Ridley Pilot, Lighthouse and Pilotage Authorities Trinity House Service, S.S. Inver (Belfast) died 17th December 1940 aged 59. Son of Jacob and Margaret Isabella Bruce; husband of Isabella Bruce, of Gravesend, Kent. Commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial, Kent

    BUCK Stuart Isles Pilot, Lighthouse and Pilotage Authorities
    Trinity House Service, S.S. Norhauk (Norway) died 21st December 1943 aged 59 Son of Frederick Augustus and Clara Georgine Buck; husband of Kathleen Emma Buck, of Gravesend, Kent. Master Mariner, Merchant Navy. Commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial, London

    MANLEY M K Not listed with the CWGC

    PRYKE Alfred John William Pilot, Lighthouse and Pilotage Authorities, Trinity House Service M.V.Roode Zee died 24th April 1944 aged 63. Commemorated on the Tower Hill Memorial, Kent

    SADLER R L Not listed with the CWGC

    WARD Herbert William Pilot,[Master Mariner] Lighthouse and Pilotage Authorities Trinity House Service, S.S. Lunula [Liverpool] died 9th April 1941 aged 36. Son of William and Ann and husband of Winifred. Buried at Gravesend Cemetery, Kent

    WITHERDEN Arthur Sidney Pilot, [Master Mariner] Lighthouse and Pilotage Authorities Trinity House Service, Pilot Vessel Pioneer died 17th April 1941 aged 61. Son of Thomas Henry and Sarah Johanna and husband of Sophia of Shrewsbury, Shropshire. Buried at Gravesend Cemetery, Kent [Memorial has Withrden]
     

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  17. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    UNITED MOLASSES – WAR MEMORIAL
    ALREWAS NATIONAL MEMORIAL ARBORETUM
    STAFFORDSHIRE


    A tribute to the memory of the 205 men of the United Molasses Ships [Athel Line & Tankers Limited] who were lost at sea during the
    World War II 1939-1945

    including


    BURGE Leslie Apprentice on ship, Athelbeach which was torpedoed on the 7th March 1941 by U99 in the North Atlantic he died aged 17. Son of Francis Richard and May Burdge, of Compton Bishop, Somerset. The CWGC have his surname as BURDGE
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    FURNESS George Apprentice on ship Atheltemplar which was bombed in a air attack. He died on the 1st March 1941 aged 16 Son of Frederick and Edith Furness, of Appleby, Westmorland.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details


    ABBOTT Andrew Peter Apprentice on ship Athelsultan which was torpedoed by U617, on the 23rd September 1942 He was killed aged 17. Son of Francis James Abbott and Nora Abbott, of Manchester. The location of the ship at the time of the attack was South East of Cape Farewell
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    REECE-HEAL Robert Leonard Carlton Apprentice on ship Athelking was sunk by gunfire from a German raider on the 9th September 1940. He was killed aged 17 Son of Mrs. M. Reece-Heal, of Kingsdown, Kent.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details
    Erected by the Athellan Apprentices Association & UM Group
     

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  18. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    glosterman: Could this be the J Sword?
    Name: SWORDS, JOSEPH EDWARD
    Initials: J E
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Mate
    Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine
    Unit Text: S.S. "Hare" (Liverpool)
    Age: 37. Date of Death: 14/12/1917
    Additional information: Son of Rose Swords (nee Archbred), of Alexis House, Dalkey, Co. Dublin, and the late Joseph Swords. Born at Dalkey, Co. Dublin.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
    SS Hare was torpedoed by U62 off the Kish Lighthouse en route Manchester to Dublin.
    12 were lost when she sank.
    Edit: Sorry, don't see how this could be on the Channel Pilotage Memorial, but?????
     
  19. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    COUNTY DURHAM REGION – WAR MEMORIAL
    now at
    ALREWAS, NATIONAL MEMORIAL ARBORETUM
    STAFFORDSHIRE
    Compiled with additional information by kind permission of the
    Commonwealth War Graves Commission
    This memorial is now at the National Memorial Arboretum, Alrewas, Staffordshire. The original location of this memorial is not known to me
    1939-1945
    ARMSTRONG Robert W There are several to pick, not sure which is the correct one

    RUDDICK Alfred Gladstone, Gunner, 14233175, 52nd Field regiment, Royal Artillery died 23rd May 1944 aged 33. Son of Thomas and Jane Warwick Ruddick; husband of Annie Dorothy Ruddick, of Darlington, Co. Durham. Buried at Cassino War Cemetery, Italy

    SMITH Frederick Lee,Captain 134574, Royal Army Service Corps died 13th February 1943 aged 28. Son of Henry Lee Smith and Sarah Eleanor Smith, of Low Fell, Gateshead, Co. Durham. Buried at Tripoli War Cemetery, Libya

    YOUNG John Christopher, Sergeant 4450729, 1st Durham Light Infantry died 20th May 1941 aged 25. Son of Joseph William and Alice Young, of South Gosforth, Newcastle-on-Tyne. Buried at Ismaila War Memorial, Cemetery, Egypt
     

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  20. glosterman

    glosterman Senior Member

    UNKNOWN LOCATION – WAR MEMORIAL
    now at the
    NATIONAL MEMORIAL ARBORETUM
    ALREWAS, STAFFORDSHIRE
    Compiled with additional information by kind permission of the
    Commonwealth War Graves Commission
    The original location of this memorial is not known to me

    1939-1945

    ASKEW David Charles,Driver 168451, Royal Army Service Corps, died in Malya 6/12/1943 aged 26 Native of Essex Son of Samuel Jesse and Grace Harriet Askew, of Penrhydeudraeth, Merionethshire.Buried at Kanchanaburi War Cemetery Thailand

    HARDMAN E Listed with the CWGC are the following [Ernest, Pte, King’s Liverpool Regt died 30/7/194] [Eric, Ord Seaman, R.N. died 17/9/1940] [Edward, Sgt, Black Watch died 1/7/1944] [Eric Arthur Lascelles, Pilot Officer, RAF, died 9/6/1942] [Eric Henry Charles, Sgt, RAF died 16/10/1941] and [Elizabeth, Civilian from Woolwich died 23/6/1944]

    QUAYLE J Listed with the CWGC are the following [James, Steward, HMS Nuthatch, from Manchester died 21/4/1946] [James, Sgt, RAF of Radcliffe, died 17/7/1943] [John Edward, Greaser, “SS Pennington Court” from Liverpool died 9/10/1942] and [ John Sydney, Sub-Lt, HMS Hermes, from Liverpool died 9/4/1942]

    STONES F Listed with the CWGC are the following [Frank, Stoker, HMS Kite, from Bolton died 21/8/1944] [Frank, Cpl, Royal Scots Fus from Bolton died 18/1/1945] ]Frank, Sgt, RAF from Tyldesley, died 12/3/1941] and Frank Daniel Pte Seaforth Highlanders from Nottingham died 12/4/1945]

    STREET F There are only three F’s all called Frank listed with the CWGC. [Pilot Officer, RAF from Cheshire died 31/8/1943] [L/Bombdr, RA, from Stafford died 31/10/1944] [ Rifleman, Royal Ulster Rifles from Worthing died 7/9/1944] others are[ Frederick Charles Alfred, Stoker, RN ] [Frederick Highfield, Sgt Glider Pilot] [Frank Hancock, Flying Officer, RAF][Francis James, Civilian] and [Francis John, Writer, RN]
     

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