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Why is there no forensic evidence of the Holocaust? (There is plenty of forensic & other evidence)

Discussion in 'The Holocaust' started by Anynameworks, Jun 28, 2025.

  1. Anynameworks

    Anynameworks Banned

    I am well aware of the evidence of the camps and starvation and deaths that are well documented by the Germans and photographed by the Allieds. I'm speaking of basic forensic evidence of mass extermination.
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    *Autoposies are the most obvious. *No photos of the clear signs of cyanide poisoning. *No chemical analysis of the surfaces of the showers used as gas chambers. (This was done years later and failed to conclude they were used as gas chambers) *no soil analysis where massive volumes of ashes were spread or buried.
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    Of the thousands of documents that are evidence, not one is available at any of the Holocaust websites. Not even the documents from which they got the number of deaths at each camp. Why not?
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    Autoposies, chemical analysis of the showers, and soil analysis are the most obvious minimum evidence one would collect to show cause of death and account for the remains 6,000,000 people. The volume of ash is easily estimated and soil analysis is simple and straightforward.
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    I don't believe they were so grossly incompetent it didn't occur to them to collect forensic evidence. Death from cyanide poisoning is easy to detect and the outward physical signs can be photographed.
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    What are you saying?
    Correct me if I am wrong but you sound like a holocaust denier
    We havent had one here for a while.
     
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  3. Owen

    Owen Member

    Yay !

    We can bring out the scotch egg chat again.
    Not had one for ages.
     
  4. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA Patron

    Are you moving this one to the Jokes thread?
     
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  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Serious bit.

    For the avoidance of doubt.
    A very serious forensic analysis of Cyanide traces at Auschwitz/Birkenau:

    A Study of the Cyanide Compounds Content in the Walls of the Gas Chambers in the Former Auschwitz and Birkenau Concentration Camps

    Solid advice: Always check Nizkor:
    The Techniques of Holocaust Denial: The Forensic Reports - Nizkor

    Because... for a long time, they've absolutely specialised in how 'modern' Holocaust denial works.
    These days it is rarely digging out online pictures of the shouty men visiting here in full (oversize) brownshirt uniform on the steps of an American courthouse (Remember him? Good times!).
    It is more often that technique most effective in all areas of academic endeavour: Obfuscation.
    And in the forensic/holocaust arena - bad faith obfuscation.
    Smoke.
    Mirrors.
    Sleight of hand.

    Oh look.
    That twat Leuchter & his 'report' comes up after just scratching the surface.
    A whole thirty seconds of Googling.
    Imagine that...




    Anyway.
    Really regretting not getting a Serrano ham at Lidl today.
    So surprised they had it, I sort of forgot to go back.
    Mmmmm. Thin, salty, acorn-fed cured meat.
    Also, had some cracking Scotch Eggs this week from the butchers.
    Not as good as my own, but very different. Not sure how he makes them. Think they're baked.
     
  6. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    We haven't been able to bring proper British Scotch eggs into Europe since Brexit, so I haven't had one for ages. Pork Pies are a no-go too. Still, at least I now have a black passport. May I start a Brexit thread ? It's been a while.
     
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  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Serrano ham
    Always looks so nice and the little knife.
    Is it classified as ultra high processed?
    It looks so natural.
     
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  8. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer Pearl Harbor Myth Buster

    George Lincoln Rockwell?
     
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I told you how to make them.
    In far too much detail If I recall.
    I may have been quite drunk at the time.

    Fun fact:
    It's really hard to find a good Pork Pie in Melton Mowbray.
    Madness.
    Again... make your own. Quite satisfying. People think you're some kind of wizard. And hot water crust pastry is a piece of piss.
     
  10. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    How do you make the jelly stuff?

    I do not like it
    If removed is it any the less a pork pie?
     
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  11. Anynameworks

    Anynameworks Banned

    I am not a "denier". I recently looked into the evidence and was dumbfounded. There is none. Not even one document.

    How can this be?
     
  12. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Disturbingly to some, if you want to do it properly: Trotters.
    Also: I put it to you, that if you remove/dislike the Jelly, you possibly are not getting 'proper' Pork Pies, but that sterile gelatine nonsense beloved of mass manufacture.
    The jelly is intrinsic.
    As above.
    A Study of the Cyanide Compounds Content in the Walls of the Gas Chambers in the Former Auschwitz and Birkenau Concentration Camps

    One of many.
    Try Google. It's surprisingly good.

    Where do you stand on Scotch Eggs?
     
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  13. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  14. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    If intrinsic
    Then nibble out side from pork pie you then have to suck jelly and appropriate on the side of your dish aka spit it out
     
  15. Anynameworks

    Anynameworks Banned

    I have read this. What I read was that they found very little traces on the walls of the showers. Yet there are heavy traces on the walls of the delousing chambers.

    Yet no explanation. Just something like, "the amount detected is indicative of gas chambers", yet not one reference to any studies of what amount should be found. No comparison with known gas chambers, etc.

    From a scientific rigor perspective, it was inconclusive, at best.

    If you can give me a summary, in your own words, of the methodology, background levels, controls, comparison to known gas chamber residues, etc, I'll be glad to give it a second, more in depth look.
     
  16. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Do you not realise we have seen your sort before. We have some very bright people here we also have some strange ones. But no holocaust deniers we always see them off.
     
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  17. Anynameworks

    Anynameworks Banned

    Why were no samples collected at the time?
    Why no soil samples?
    Why no autoposies?
    Why no photo documentation of the outward physical signs og Cyanide poisoning?
    Why didn't the Germans build gas chambers?
    They are great engineers and they designed and built efficient gas chambers with proper equipment for disbursing gas and ventilation for quick removal for killing lice, yet used incredibly inefficient showers for killing 6,000,000 + people.

    The explanation is that they didn't want the prisoners to know they were "gas chambers", but there are prisoner testimonies of the showers used as gas chambers. This is a contradiction.
     
  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    You are wasting your time.
    Its nearly lights out and its not so easy to hide a smart phone as it is a Tiny T1
    Although the pork pie jelly does help
     
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  19. Anynameworks

    Anynameworks Banned

    Ad hominem is all I get. Isn't there anyone here with basic science literacy who can have a discussion and allow questions?

    I am not a "denier". But I have enough common sense to require evidence of extraordinary claims. And enough background in science to understand the minimum evidence one would collect at the scene of the mass murder of 6,000,000 people.

    Why do people scream Nazi instead of having a simple discussion of the basic science? Come on....the volume of ash that 6,000,000 bodies produces and you don't even bother with soil samples? Not even an autoposy?

    How is this not fantastical? Do you suggest they were so grossly inept that it never occurred to anyone to collect samples and do autoposies?
     
  20. Anynameworks

    Anynameworks Banned

    I have read this. What I read was that they found very little traces on the walls of the showers. Yet there are heavy traces on the walls of the delousing chambers.

    Yet no explanation. Just something like, "the amount detected is indicative of gas chambers", yet not one reference to any studies of what amount should be found. No comparison with known gas chambers, etc.

    From a scientific rigor perspective, it was inconclusive, at best.

    If you can give me a summary, in your own words, of the methodology, background levels, controls, comparison to known gas chamber residues, etc, I'll be glad to give it a second, more in depth look.
     

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