Who was the most Evil person in the Third Reich

Very much in the same way that TB thinks he's God's gift to Britain. Hell fire! Call out the RAF to bomb No 10!
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If anyone wants a good read concerning conditions inside a concentration camp, Eyewitness Auschwitz provides a first-hand account by survivor Filip Muller. Fascinating but extremely disturbing. Anyway, the reason I bring it up is because their was a senior SS officer who was given command of the camp near the end of the war in order to make it more 'efficient', by the name of Moll (I can't find his first name). This guy was a perverted sadist whose cruelty knew no bounds. For a small sample of his many offenses I give you the following quote from the book:

"Yet another game in Moll's repertoire was one called brick-bashing. He divided his chosen victims into two teams. Each prisoner was given two bricks, one for each hand, which he had to bang together until the bricks were shattered. Of course every one who took part in this 'competition' sustained painful and bleeding injuries. The prisoners of the losing team were made to run against the barbed wire, but before they reached it, Moll would bag them like so many hares. Another thing he was fond of doing was to kill babies by flinging them live into the boiling human fat on either side of the pits..."

He was fond of coming up with these kind of games, many of them as bad as, if not worse, than those listed above. My vote goes to Hauptscharfuhrer Moll.

 

If anyone wants a good read concerning conditions inside a concentration camp, Eyewitness Auschwitz provides a first-hand account by survivor Filip Muller. Fascinating but extremely disturbing. Anyway, the reason I bring it up is because their was a senior SS officer who was given command of the camp near the end of the war in order to make it more 'efficient', by the name of Moll (I can't find his first name).


Otto!

 

He was fond of coming up with these kind of games, many of them as bad as, if not worse, than those listed above. My vote goes to Hauptscharfuhrer Moll.

Quote from Axis History:

"He was the chief of the "Gärtnerei-Kommando" in 1941 in Auschwitz. But SS-Hauptsturmführer Otto Moll made a career ín Auschwitz due to his engagement in the physical extermination of the Jews. Whenever a new method of extermination and disposal was found, whenever a new operation was carried out, Otto Moll was in Auschwitz. It is said that Moll was responsible for the liquidation of the first group of prisoners who had to empty the gas-chambers and cremate the corpses (Sonderkommando) in late 1942. He is also mentioned by survivers of the following Sonderkommando. From them we know that he supervised the gassings in December 1942. Moll is also brought in connection with the development of a wire mesh device that was used in some crematoria to introduce the poison gas into the gas-chambers. He must have been sent away from Auschwitz somewhere in 1943 or early 1944, perhaps because of the new commandants in Auschwitz.

When the first Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss was sent back to Auschwitz to carry out the extermination of the Hungarian Jews in summer 1944, he brought back his extermination specialist Otto Moll and made him the head of the crematoria.

It seems that Moll was sent to Dachau after his time in Auschwitz. According to the Auschwitz State Museum, "SS-Hauptscharführer Otto Moll, head of crematoria department of Birkenau, was sentenced to death during the trial of KL Dachau staff and executed in Landsberg in 1946."


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Some additional informations on Moll's career in Auschwitz:

He became Block- und Kommandoführer in Birkenau in June 1942. On 1 April 1943 Moll is mentioned in a Kommandanturbefehl published by Rudolf Höss. He was honoured with the Kriegsverdienstkreuz erster Klasse mit Schwertern. On 2 September 1943 Moll is the commandant of the sub-camp Fürstengrube. It appears that he became the manager of the sub-camp Gleiweitz after that. He returned to Auschwitz-Birkenau to carry out the extermination of the unfit Hungarian Jews in May 1944.

 

Martin Bormann sends a shiver down my spine. Man of the shadows, pulled a lot of evil strings. Even his contemporaries were afraid of him. Lot of blood on his hands.

 

I went for Himmler. It's hard to pick out one from such an evil group but most of the others were lower down a command structure that led through him to Hitler.

 

One of the most surprising things about so many of the sadists, murderers etc of the Nazi was how banal they looked and acted.

Just like to make a point here. The Nazi's were a political party, the German National Socialist Party, just like other political parties around the world. There is no getting away from it, they were German people.

 

Heydrich would have to be up there. He was prepared to instigate the final solution - period. Himmler wanted the power, but when they gave it to him on the front line, he struck out. He didn't get up till 10 -11 oclock in the morning and pampered. Then he got stressed out. The new commander who had came to relieve him. Had Himmler approach him chuck the blame on him for his own foul ups, then made his excuses and left.

Irma Grese would have to be in the annals for sickest b*****d. That arrogant she stopped a senior British officer from entering her block, and she would set dogs on children/women and watch them get torn to bits.

I wouldn't discriminate in the final analysis. The sickening for me is that so many escaped justice and some were even recruited by the Allies and their pasts conveniently glosssed over, because of their scientific value and knowledge.

 

Just found a complete facsimile of Stroop's "The Warsaw Ghetto is no more", translations and scans of every page and full photo album at the end.

The Warsaw Ghetto Is No More.

Cheers,
Adam.

Stroop was so enthralled in his racial role in the "Final Solution" that sycophantly, he had copies of his report of the destruction of the Warsaw Getto and its people, bound in leather and sent to his superiors.

 

I think there are two types of "evil" - the planners and the doers. Those who were physically involved in the killings and ill-treatment of prisoners are, of course, to be seen as evil because of their activities. But to my mind the planners are worse - they coldly instigated these crimes, either philosophically, political or bureaucratically.

I notice that no-one has mentioned Goebbels or Goering. Goering has been discussed in other threads, but it was the master propagandist Goebbels who helped spread the Nazi message across Germany and Europe. It was also his speeches and his propaganda ministry that dehumanised, and thus lead to the abysmal treatment of jews, slavs, and every other group of people persecuted by the Nazis. He was responsible for the continued resistence by the German armed forces from 1943, after his "total war" speech.

Oh, I nearly forgot - Goebbels' involvement during and after Kristallnacht.

 

Dr. Mengele ?! Dont know a lot about him but i hear he done some research on humans.

 

I went for Himmler. It's hard to pick out one from such an evil group but most of the others were lower down a command structure that led through him to Hitler.

Himmler was a desk tyrant, he was contented to leave the dirty work for the others. At one occasion he visited a concentration camp and he felt physically ill, the poor darling creature.

 

Stalin! ( i know he ain't german)
I would put him over anyone.

 

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I think there are two types of "evil" - the planners and the doers. Those who were physically involved in the killings and ill-treatment of prisoners are, of course, to be seen as evil because of their activities. But to my mind the planners are worse - they coldly instigated these crimes, either philosophically, political or bureaucratically.

I notice that no-one has mentioned Goebbels or Goering. Goering has been discussed in other threads, but it was the master propagandist Goebbels who helped spread the Nazi message across Germany and Europe. It was also his speeches and his propaganda ministry that dehumanised, and thus lead to the abysmal treatment of jews, slavs, and every other group of people persecuted by the Nazis. He was responsible for the continued resistence by the German armed forces from 1943, after his "total war" speech.

Oh, I nearly forgot - Goebbels' involvement during and after Kristallnacht.

I would agree with this submission,it is the only real assessmemt to make.As in all "businesses" there has to be the "planners and the doers",another dimension is "leaders and followers"."Vision and motivation" are the hallmarks of the highest leadership but in Hitler's case, it was based on evil and with this personality trait he was able to seduce the greater part of the German nation.

One of the aspects of the 12 year period of Nazi rule was the way that he attracted the intellectual types into the party and made them the conduit for the planning and execution of crimes against humanity.They never appeared to be able of rational thought apart from in the end when many sought self preservation.

Hitler came to power with formulae based on violence,deceit and bluff.He ruled throughout by the "Fuhrerprincip".His followers worshipped him and were eager to follow, but failed to appreciate the depth of inhumanity that his leadership had taken them and their country to.

From the top to the bottom of the organistion,the success of the organistion depended on individuals who were willing to sell their souls to the devil.One of the assessments of the regime was that the core members while paying loyalty to Hitler and the "Fuhrerprincip" were continally engaged in a struggle and intrigue amongst each other,each trying to build up their own power empires and prestige.While at the bottom of the regime the "small fry", each individually guilty of crimes against humanity ensured that the state "terror machine" functioned from day to day and year to year.

 

But i think Churchil was the most evil person or maybe Truman..