What is a 'Rota Aircraft' ?

Discussion in '1940' started by Drew5233, Nov 6, 2010.

  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Taken from WO167/190 1 Division General Staff War Diary there is an entry in the diary during November dated 24th of November at 1000 hrs.

    A Rota Aircraft visited H.Q. 1 Div to-day. Several flights were made by officers of different units, to test its suitability for intercomn., purposes.



    Anyone know what type of aircraft it is and have any pictures?
     
  2. Vitesse

    Vitesse Senior Member

  3. idler

    idler GeneralList

  4. May1940

    May1940 Senior Member

    Drew

    There is a little bit about the relevant aircraft in the following forum:

    RAF Autogyros in France 1940 - RafCommands Forums

    Cierva Autogiros: the development of rotary-wing flight
    Peter W. Brooks

    "Two or three C.40s (L7589, probably L7590 and possibly T1419) went to France to join the British Expeditionary Force between October and December 1939. Two more were to have followed them after the army authorities asked for further trials. When British forces were driven out of France, one or two of the C.40's were flown back"

    They may be interested to hear of your reference.

    Andrew
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I did get a bit excited and think HELICOPTER in 1940 France !

    It appears it might be quite a find so I'll post the diary page.
     
  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Taken from WO167/190 1 Division General Staff War Diary

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  7. Ednamay

    Ednamay wanderer

    Did they ever use Sikorskys, does anyone know?? Ednamay
     
  8. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    The Allies certainly used helicopters in Burma in 1945 - not sure about Europe
     
  9. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

  10. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

  11. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers for the links-Looks like this is it:
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    Shame there are no pictures of it (I can't find any) in France working with the BEF.
     
  12. Vitesse

    Vitesse Senior Member

    Nearest I can find is a page from Flight, October 1940:
     

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  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Anyone a member of RAF Commands that would care to post a link to this thread on the RAF Commands thread (Link above)?

    I emailed the forums Admin a week or so ago and they have obviously ignored the request to pass the info onto the forum members that are interested-He obviously doesn't work within the Customer Service Sector :lol:

    Cheers
    A
     
  14. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    The threads on the Rota on all the forums come up with a Google search it does not need extra storage space to save a link that will become broken as other sites archive/delete the info.

    As for the crack:
    He obviously doesn't work within the Customer Service Sector :lol:

    I would draw your attention to your request which stated that you did not 'wish to join another forum' to post the link yourself.

    Pot - kettle - black

    Ross
     
  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    How about posting the whole reason that I emailed you rather than an edit of it, to which I received no reply?

    Not wishing to sound rude or lazy but aircraft are not really my thing (BEF 1940 France is) and don't wish to join another forum-My missus would do her nut! Hopefully you'll be kind enough to share the info with your members.



    Anyway I humbly apologise for trying to help out some of your forum members-I'll not bother in future.

    Regards
    Andy
     
  16. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    I found this in Pathe News, Paris 1934, looks similar to photo in post 11 to my eye, but what do I know.

    I'll leave the rest of you to it ;)

    AUTOGYRO LANDS IN PARIS STREET - British Pathe

    Full title reads: "Autogyro Lands in Paris Street - Thrill For Air Exhibition crowds".

    Paris, France.

    British made Autogyro - 'predecessor' of helicopter, taking off at Paris street, people looking on. A building with a sign over door reading "Salon de l'Aviation". Pan down the building showing crowds at the front. Autogyro flying over the exhibition building - this demonstration is part of the Aviation Exhibition. Autogyro lands almost vertically in front of crowd - people cheer. Pilot starts talking into camera - French, natural sound. He is interviewed by reporters.

    N.B. Item found in Unidentified Gazettes reel. Dupe of item from 34/96.

    AUTOGYRO LANDS IN PARIS STREET - long version - British Pathe
    Full title reads: "AUTOGYRO LANDS IN PARIS STREET - Thrill for Air Exhibition crowds."

    Paris, France.

    British made Autogyro - 'predecessor' of helicopter, taking off at Paris street, people looking on. A building with a sign over door reading "Salon de l'Aviation". Pan down the building showing crowds at the front. Autogyro flying over the exhibition building - this demonstration is part of the Aviation Exhibition. Autogyro lands almost vertically in front of crowd - people cheer. Pilot starts talking into camera - French, natural sound. He is interviewed by reporters.

    Short version of this story exist - slightly better quality footage - see other record.
     
  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Many thanks Di, it looks the same to me to but what do I know too ;)
     
  18. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    From Capt Sir Basil Bartlett's Very Very Funny May 1940 Journal. 'My First War'


    A farmer is reported to be ploughing his field in the shape of arrows pointing straight at an aerodrome and at some petrol-dumps. This has caused a considerable flutter. Sargette, of the B.C.R., has had the farmer who's a Belgian arrested. And he's asked us to climb all high buildings in the neighbourhood and see what we can see. We are all too lazy for that sort of adventure. So we're inteding for a helicopter. The helicopter, which is attached to Corps, is unpopular just now, as it ran out of petrol the other day and landed in a beet field. One of our Brigadiers, who was onboard, had to walk nine miles home. Also the French AA gunners have a habit of pooping off at it.
     

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