With respect Steve, I haven't 'ignored' anyone or anything. However, I do feel that any veteren who posts on a forum in 2011 tacitly accepts that he will be corresponding with younger persons who weren't there. As I said, I find it a shame that this particular thread in the 1940 section has not been allowed to stand alone with corroborated evidence about the incident in question Had this been allowed to occur then the thread would gently have slipped down the forum and would only have been examined by those who wish to know more about this particular incident. My Grandfather was an Infantry battalion RSM who was in France in 1940 (as a PSM) and I heard enough over the years to have a fairly good understanding about how strict a well-run battalion was in all forms of discipline but I feel that we do the cause of the Durhams involved in the Arras counter-attack little good by turning the thread into a general discussion about whether any British troops could have been capable of poor conduct under any circumstances. Rich Hello Rich, I trust you are well! Look at my Avatar. This is the arm flash of the 50th (Northumbrian) Division. One of my great granddads died in WWI, my dad's oldest brother died in WWII - at Bray Dunes on 31 May 1940 - and one of my uncles was shot in the head in 1944 (Brussels area), all serving with the 50 Div. The 6th, 8th and 9th Bns Durham Light Infantry were all 50th (Northumbrian ) Division; the best of the best. No one could be derogatory about them without me kicking off big time. I still say that general observations on the extremis of the matters that have been commented on by a very notable veteran of this fourm are valuable; as they give a very human context from one who knows. I really don't want to get into an argument with you about this because I also respect you and your views. So, if we disagree let's just leave matters where they are... Yours very sincerely, Steve.