6th and 8th DLI only caught up with the tanks at 4pm...and 8th DLI propmtly got into a "Blue on Blue" firefight with some French tanks! Then the proverbial began to hit the fan... It looks as if C Company, 8 DLI along with these french tanks - AFTER peace was declared between them! - attacked a german strongpoint in a cemetery near Duisans. According to Harman, citing the DLI official History word for word... Quote: "When they occupied it (the cemetary - my note) they found only eighteen alive and the French stripped them to the skin and made them lie down on the road until it was time to take them away." First breach of the Hague AND Geneva Conventions, with the DLI present and participating. Similarly, the war diary of 6 DLI reports... Quote: "Large numbers of prisoners were taken" According to Harman, there's only ONE surviving copy of this DLI war diary, in the PRO at Kew at that time...but it DOES address the number of POWs handed over to the DLI in this second occurance... Or rather it WOULD do, but someone punching the Diary pages for putting into a file has punched out the digit at the start of the number of POWS! But that's JUST the FIRST digit - the diary entry STILL retains...the following TWO ZEROS. So what CAN at least be definitely said that the DLI were in receipt of AT LEAST 100 Totenkopf prisoners of war, and going by the RTR report, probably several hundred taken surrendering after thir convoy was shot up. As Harman then says - Quote: "There is no subsequent trace of these prisoners." Harman continues, to sum up the event he's reporting - Quote: The distasteful truth is that men of the Durham Light Infantry did murder an unknown number of Germans who had surrendered, and were legitimate prisoners of war. The DLI advanced, took prisoners and were then forced to retreat. They could not take the prisoners back with them. so they killed the SS men rather than set them free to fight again. That, at least, is how some surviving members of the DLI describe the event. More to follow. __________________ Knowing how you chaps like to see original documents, I thought that it might not be a bad idea to post some extracts from the relevant War diaries. First of all 8th DLI referring to the incident with the French tanks and the cemetery. No mention of the prisoners being stripped so if Mr. Harman is quoting word for word then he needs to look at his (now missing) notes again. 6th DLI's diary does indeed have the infamous hole punch top right. Damn ! No mention of whether these prisoners were SS or not but it does say that they were "sent back" so they were no longer in the hands of the units that captured them. If there were prisoner deaths then I don't see how they could have been from the prisoners documented in any of the diaries. None of this of course proves anything (nor was it likely to). My reading of the rest of the diaries does not indicate units which considered themselves short of resources (and there certainly are some of those). Is this thread the proper place to post further extracts or would they be better on their own ?