The US has deported to Austria a former SS man it says was involved in the Nazi killing of some 8,000 Jews, shot in a single day and buried in pits. Josias Kumpf, 83, left Austria in 1956, settled in Wisconsin and became a US citizen in 1964. The US justice department sued to strip him of his citizenship in 2003. BBC NEWS | Europe | US deports SS 'murder pits guard' Regards Tom
Why don't these men ever come clean and truthfully admit their guilt an confess their crimes. It won't reverse what they did but at least it might shut up a few of the deniers out there.
Why don't these men ever come clean and truthfully admit their guilt an confess their crimes. It won't reverse what they did but at least it might shut up a few of the deniers out there. To be honest Stig, the deniers are mostly complete f*** wits or callous schemers, seeking to serve themselves. 'Facts' are something almost entirely irrelevant to them. CS
Captain Sensible To be honest Stig, the deniers are mostly complete f*** wits or callous schemers, seeking to serve themselves. 'Facts' are something almost entirely irrelevant to them. Sensible words from the Captain.
Interestingly, that one side links to another one, look! BBC NEWS | Europe | German charges for 'Nazi guard' German charges for 'Nazi guard' Mr Demjanjuk says he was a prisoner of war of the Nazis. " German prosecutors have filed charges against an alleged Nazi death camp guard who lives in the United States, and have applied for his extradition. John Demjanjuk, 88, is accused of involvement in the deaths of 29,000 Jews at a camp in Nazi-occupied Poland. Mr Demjanjuk was sentenced to death in Israel in the 1980s, but was then acquitted and returned to the US. He denies any involvement in the crimes, saying he was a prisoner of war of the Nazis, rather than a guard. German authorities said on Wednesday that they had charged Mr Demjanjuk with more than 29,000 counts of accessory to murder, according to the Associated Press. 'Ivan the Terrible' In November last year investigators in Munich, where Mr Demjanjuk lived briefly after the war, said they had managed "to obtain hundreds of documents and have also found a number of witnesses who spoke out against Demjanjuk". "For the first time we have even found lists of names of the people who Demjanjuk personally led into the gas chambers. We have no doubt that he is responsible for the death of over 29,000 Jews", said Kurt Schrimm, who heads the special German office investigating Nazi crimes. Ivan Demjanjuk was born in Ukraine and migrated to the US in 1952. In 1986, he was extradited to Israel and sentenced to death for war crimes, after being identified by witnesses as "Ivan the Terrible" - a notorious prison guard at the Treblinka camp. But the Israeli Supreme Court overturned his conviction, when new evidence emerged suggesting he was not the same guard. He returned to the US but was accused of lying on his immigration application about working for the Nazis. In 2002, a US immigration judge ruled that there was enough evidence to prove Mr Demjanjuk had been a guard at several Nazi death camps and stripped him of his citizenship. Last year, the retired Ohio car worker lost his legal fight to stay in the US, when the US Supreme Court rejected his appeal against deportation. He remained in the US, however, while authorities tried to decide where he should be sent. "
Why don't these men ever come clean and truthfully admit their guilt an confess their crimes. It won't reverse what they did but at least it might shut up a few of the deniers out there. I have a theory, in 2009 many of these war criminals would have been in their 10s-30s during the war. Those that may have been in their "teen years" may have committed crimes during the war for whatever reasons but realized the seriousness of their actions after the war and went into hiding. Its possible those who had felt sorry for their actions out of fear chose to hide, those that really didn't give a crap about what they did went into hiding purely to escape punishment.
They should have just shot him. or pushed him under a bus or a train, down a flight of stairs or maybe held a raffle to see who wanted to smother him... I guess having the details aired out again keeps the crimes fresh in our memories and the memories of those who might not fully grasp the size of the shame.
Killing a killer is no solution. Then he will just be gone. He has to pay for his deeds, suffer for them and cry while he regrets his past choices. Yes, this sounds very sadistic but the guy deserves it. Lifelong prison and everyday torture.
[...]He has to pay for his deeds, suffer for them and cry while he regrets his past choices. Yes, this sounds very sadistic but the guy deserves it. Lifelong prison and everyday torture. And who has got the right to do that?
