Unknown Scottish Officer - Can you help Idenfify him?

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  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
    TIA.
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  2. Incredibledisc

    Incredibledisc Well-Known Member

    F92E033D-A858-462F-9169-7C885EA4DBAF.jpeg Cap badge looks like Gordon Highlanders if that helps narrow it down.
     
  3. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    He has a very passing resemblance to Major-General Noel Mason-Macfarlane, who was Director of Intelligence to the BEF. But he was a Royal Artillery officer.
     
  4. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    ... and would that be General Gamelin?
     
  5. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    My guess:

    That's General Fagalde and the Scot following him is the Commanding Officer of 5th Battalion Gordon Highlanders in 1940, but I can't find his name.

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  6. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

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    Could it be Lt-Col A.D. Buchanan-Smith OBE TD?
    (That does say 'Smith', doesn't it?)
     
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  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

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  8. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It is indeed Bertrand Fagalde who commanded the French 16 Corps as part of the 7th Army. They were on the BEF's left flank (between the BEF and the sea) up until 10th May. This photo must pre-date 51st Div's move to the Saar.

    5th Gordon's diary ought to mention the parade, and if not, maybe 51 Provost's might.
     
  9. Incredibledisc

    Incredibledisc Well-Known Member

    Well done chaps. Nice bit of detective work.
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Thank you all very much :)
     
  11. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    As he seems to be wearing two stripes under the 51 Div saltire, it would seem likely that the photo was taken between January 1940 when they arrived in France and March 1940 when 6th Gordons were replaced by the regular 1st Battalion, at which point the 5th became junior and ought to have added another stripe. Do you have the diary for those months ?
     
  12. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    If he's Buchanan-Smith,O.B.E, shouldn't he have at least two WW1 medal ribbons, plus the O.B.E. on his BD ? I'd expect the C.O. to be in Service Dress at this stage of the phoney war. P2201255.JPG
     
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  13. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    You should have him up on a charge, Rich.
     
  14. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    If he's a major (and I think he is as I can only see a crown and no pip), then isn't he likely to be second-in-command or a company commander ? Maybe chosen for an ability to speak French ?
     
  15. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    You could be right.

    According to the WD page above, the 2 i/c was a Major R. N. Christie (at least later on in 1940). That parade is definitely the same occasion, so unless he's a liaison officer (in which case our task is hugely complicated), we just need a comparison photograph for Major Christie--I'll start searching.

    Edit: could somebody with Findmypast membership search Scottish post-war newspapers. Scottish senior officers almost always seem to have done community work post-war.
     
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  16. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I wondered about a liason officer but he seems to be showing off the parade and he is badged as Gordons which would otherwise be quite a co-incidence. If the C.O. was indisposed then as far as the photographer was concerned, this chap would have been the Commanding Officer.

    A history of the Gordons available on-line refers to the incident mentioned in the War Diary and gives the first name as 'Rupert'.
     
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  17. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

  18. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

  19. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

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  20. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

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