Unit/personnel Transfers 5bn Black Watch - end of Sicily

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by Pte Harper, Jan 29, 2021.

  1. Pte Harper

    Pte Harper Junior Member

    Hi there, is there anywhere we can look in regards to transfers, apart from personnel war records?

    I'm currently trying to research my great uncle Pte J C Cawton 5th Battalion Black Watch and have requested his war record, but in the meantime I'm trying to workout as much as possible.

    He was part of 5th BN Black Watch in Africa and its was believed (in the family) he stayed in Italy after the invasion of Sicily but the 5th Bn Black Watch returned to the UK in October 43, and I believe it was just the 6th that moved through Italy and finished the war there? he does have the Italy start but that could have been for Sicily?

    I know he hasn't got a France -German star medal (could have been lost), and family members don't believe he was involved in DDay where the 5bn Black Watch landed at 2000 on Juno, but he did also say that Austria was a really nice place so was in Austria/Germany at some point.

    He was wounded, that was only in 1943 at El Alamein, and that's the only record of any injury, so I don't believe he missed out most the ETO because of injury.

    so my question, was it possible for him to transfer to the 6th Black Watch and then somehow back to Austria, or did some 5th Black Watch stay behind in Italy?

    Any help would me very much appreciated.
     
  2. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

    Although the allied forces in Italy had not entered Austria by the end of the war he could easily end up as part of the occupying army in Austria post-war. Maybe as he says it was a really nice place no one was shooting at him any more when he was there.
     
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  3. Pte Harper

    Pte Harper Junior Member

    I think I might have stumbled across what happed, thanks to this very site and with what Travers 1940 said, but please if you know better let me know.

    After Sicily, I think he might have been on the ship that went to Salerno and maybes was involved or not, in the mutiny. In the end I believe he went to help the 46 Division (as he was awarded his medals, and the ones that refused to help had them revoked). He then maybes stayed with the 46th (need to research this) as in 1945 The division then moved into Austria as part of the occupying army.
     
  4. Pte Harper

    Pte Harper Junior Member

    This set me on thinking, which got me looking in the right area
     
  5. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    His mention in the Casualty lists states that he was wounded, Western Dessert on 23/10/42
     
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  6. Pte Harper

    Pte Harper Junior Member

    You are absolutely right, I have so many dates going round my head I miss typed.
     
  7. Pte Harper

    Pte Harper Junior Member

    Actually, just thinking...I have a newspaper cutting from October 24 1944 where his dad claims he was wounded twice. From my searching I can only find the 23/10/42 date. Is there anywhere else to look.

    Cawton 5-1500x1500.jpg
     
  8. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

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    Pte Harper Junior Member

  10. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Delete wrong.
     
  11. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    Casualty list 981 has him wounded 28/10/42 but corrected on list 989 to 23/10/42.
     

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