Ukraine War. 2022-

Discussion in 'Postwar' started by CL1, Feb 26, 2022.

  1. I wonder how much of these "new" tactics for urban warfare are derived from lessons learnt the hard way in Stalingrad 80 years ago (or in Berlin a tad later), and apparently forgotten since...
  2. davidbfpo

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    It was widely reported when the Soviet Union invaded Chechnya in 1994-1996, with large losses of tanks when attacking Grozny (the capital), partly due to the large of infantry fighting with them, the Red Army discovered only the Naval Infantry (or Marines) had retained urban / street fighting skills and called them in. The Naval Infantry had formed a good part of the Sevastopol garrison in the first siege in 1941-1942.

    My less certain recollection is that the initial intervention in Hungary, in 1956, was all armour in Budapest and the Red Army lost in the first few days. When combined operations were launched resistance was overcome.
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  3. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    The video is going viral in the (a)social media right now....
    And surely soon in the trenches as well
    I will not recount the murder in detail here
    But if something like this is now made public by the perpetrators, we should be prepared
    for the term "brutal slaughter" to be taken to the next level in the near future....

    So much for the rules of contained war.
  4. davidbfpo

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  5. davidbfpo

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    The latest commentary from ret'd Australian general Mick Ryan:
    Link: Thread by @WarintheFuture on Thread Reader App
  6. davidbfpo

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    A CNN report on a Chinese-made drone, the manufacturer does not export to a war zone, being shot down by the Ukrainian Army and a UK expert's comments:
    From: Exclusive: Chinese-made drone, retrofitted and weaponized, downed in eastern Ukraine | CNN
  7. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target All life is precious

    Wind of change ?
    The BBC News on line has it appears, recently been allowed access to the front lines.
    "Two Ukrainian army brigades defending the city's southern flank gave the BBC access to their positions last week as fierce fighting continued in and around Bakhmut".

    Interesting photo of a Maxim Machinegun on a trolley (WW1 or WW2) shown in a defensive strongpoint, perhaps some of our members might comment on its vintage if they can view it.

    One would hope that the UA has left the area by now.
  8. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Maxim M1910/30. Ukraine had thousands of them in stock.
    And make no mistake: this ancient system is still excellent for long-lasting defensive fire - because that is exactly what it was once designed for.
    Also the even older 7.62 x 54R cartridge is still just as deadly as it was 130 years ago.
    (Anyone who has ever fired a Dragunov knows the power of the charge).
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  9. JDKR

    JDKR Member

    Business as usual…

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  10. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

  11. davidbfpo

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    Worth a read:
    Link: Wagner’s convicts tell of horrors of Ukraine war
  12. davidbfpo

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    A commentary by Glen Grant, an ex-British Army officer, with long experience of military assistance, including the Ukraine, which appeared via a Twitter by ret'd Australian general Mick Ryan (whose commentaries I often post here). He is critical that the Ukrainian military are still following a Soviet model of leadership.

    It is a long article, so you can chose which sections to read. See: Glen Grant. 2023 – a time and chance for military change in Ukraine

    His bio is on, scroll down: Team and Experts

    Yes, another commentary though not written a year ago by the US Modern War Institute at West Point. One key passage explains:
    Link: Don’t Underestimate the Bear—Russia Is One of the World’s Most Effective Modern Counterinsurgents - Modern War Institute

    Today the commentary is off target, the war is not a counterinsurgency. We know the Russian Army is brutal, as it was in COIN.
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  15. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Oops, he did it again....
    Kostyantynivka (15 Miles W of Bakhmut) today:
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  18. davidbfpo

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    A long commentary by Professor Lawrence Freedman, which looks at several factors, notably any Chinese role and ends with:
    Link: Still Bakhmut
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  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    MOD video of Ukrainians training on Challenger2.
    I noticed one of the staff was US Army.

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