Tracing the impossible?

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by daisy1942, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    For those of you that questioned my logic, DNA testing has proved that Dominic Cunningham Casey and Dominic Michael Stringer were one and the same person!
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    We did not question your logic just the ramblings on dozens of posts without much structure and many of the expert members on here trying to help.

    how did you manage the DNA test

    regards
    [​IMG]
     
  3. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    Our daughter gave us DNA kits for Christmas. The results came back last week. My husband was contacted by someone who thought she was related to him. By running up our tree and down hers we proved the family connection.

    Regarding the comment about logic, there was one member who flatly refused to believe that Dominic Cunningham Casey and Dominic Michael Stringer were one and the same, in spite of the high level of anecdotal evidence to support this. Now I have conclusive proof! After chasing the man for thirty five years it is nice to know the truth.:D
     
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  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    are you sure
     
  5. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    This is exactly the reason I have not been on here in over a year until today.
    YES! I AM SURE!
    The combination of DNA and the circumstantial information I have gathered in a search spanning 35 years means that I do not make such a statement until I am sure of my facts!

    If you do not have a constructive comment, what is the point?
     
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  6. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    ok I am not trying to be clever but the word circumstantial is concerning

    As long as you are happy then job done

    well done
     
  7. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    Circumstantial is the best word to describe it. when this evidence covers the same parents names, the same date of birth, the same for his brothers, the same cause of death for the mother, both of them brought up in the same area of Glasgow, the same primary school, Dominic Casey disappeared from Glasgow approximately 14 months before Dominic Stringer turned up in Singapore, a picture sent to a cousin of Dominic Cunningham Casey was shown to his aunt who said they looked alike.

    There comes a point where circumstance or coincidence gets to be a likelihood!
     
  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    tell that to the CPS
     
  9. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    The CPS do not understand or use logic 90% of the time! They make plenty of mistakes! Look at the number of miscarriages of justice!

    If you cannot accept logic, circumstance and the science of DNA, perhaps you believe that the moon is made of green cheese and the world is flat?
     
  10. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    just ignore me I would not even trust myself

    well done though glad you sorted it

    perhaps a small book beckons?
     
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  11. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    It has been suggested - sadly I still have too many holes in his war time exploits to make a book logical as yet !
     
  12. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery


    go for faction
    make a few assumptions along the way
    it could roll
     
  13. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    Hi CL1

    Thank you for your sense of humour, it really cheered my husband and me up. All I have to do now is to fill in the gaps, how did he get from Glasgow to Singapore and from Singapore to Trinidad?

    It occurred to me that with your connections to the RA, you might have suggestions about finding his service record? Also which RA regiments were based where in Singapore in January 1942?
     
  14. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    Hi CL1

    Thank you for your sense of humour, it really cheered my husband and me up. All I have to do now is to fill in the gaps.
    We know he married on 30/12/1940 at St Teresea's RC Church. Glasgow. As stated on his marriage certificate he was in the Royal Artillery. With your connections to the RA , do you have any suggestions about finding his service record? Also which RA regiments were based where in Singapore?
     
  15. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Crikey I have more front than Selfridges take no note of me.

    Re the units
    do you have date of birth and date of death

    It might be worth calling 0345 600 9663 (Service Records),I would suggest at the moment with all this shenanigans going on it might be difficult to get through.
    Once you do though have a script to run past them explaining your predicament they well be able to understand a very unusual situation which is worth a bit of file digging.The reason for my suggestion is just in case the Glasgow to Singapore and Singapore to the Windies might lead you up the wrong path re units in that particular area during WW2.

    regards
    Clive
     
  16. daisy1942

    daisy1942 Junior Member

    Oh dear my fingers seemed to have a fit of repeating myself! LOL
    thank you for the suggestions, I did try that number a while back and got the brush off. To track his service record they want d.o.b. and d.o.d this is where I fall down. As there is a change of name involved they want formal proof that he changed his name. I do not believe Dad ever got this.
    Having left Singapore on 13/2/1942 he vanished. He never went back to the army. When he turned up in the Windies, he was using the name Stringer. At least, he married (bigamously) under that name in January1943. He claimed to have been torpedoed 3 times and did not want to go back to sea (understandable)!
    In the Windies, somehow he managed to get himself into the USED(Coastguard). In the present day, this unit is known as US Corps of Engineers. We think that must have been some feat because as far as I can tell the US military were not recruiting foreign nationals at the time!
    Just to make my life really interesting, by May 1944 he was in Montreal, Canada in the British Merchant Navy. He completed the war in the Med on various British ships and returned to Liverpool in July 1945 from memory.
    His antics makes my head spin!
     
  17. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Try our Foreign office perhaps and see if they could offer advice.
    Have you thought your father could be one of twins and they lived a double life so to speak swapping names and life styles

    This is a good idea for your book just make sure you acknowledge my ramblings in the shadows.

    This is the ending akin to the Voyager spacecraft

    "The Voyagers are destined—perhaps eternally—to wander the Milky Way."

    PS:you could always try a daily national newspaper that has a tracing lost family piece each Saturday,this could send their researchers reaching for the bottle.

    regards
    Clive
     

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