Thomas Ernest Abbott

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  1. drailton

    drailton Senior Member

    Private Thomas Ernest Abbott (born 1 Nov 1906) was commissioned in the Royal Indian Army Service Corps as 2nd Lieutenant on 28 Jan 1942. It is known that he was still in the army in 1946 but after that there is no record of him.

    Does anyone have any ideas about tracing his army history after that date even if only his discharge.
     
  2. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    Not adding anything new, but I was hoping what was known would lead somewhere elseā€¦

    Pity there is no service number attached with his commissioning - it would make it easier to track his movements from then on.

    THE LONDON GAZETTE, 15 MAY, 1942

    India Office,
    15th May, 1942
    The KING has approved the following promotions, appointments, retirements, etc.:

    INDIAN ARMY

    Emergency Commissions.

    The undermentioned appts. are made:

    To be 2nd Lts.

    28th Jan. 1942

    Pte. Thomas Ernest Abbott
     
  3. rjb1984

    rjb1984 Junior Member

    Private Thomas Ernest Abbott (born 1 Nov 1906) was commissioned in the Royal Indian Army Service Corps as 2nd Lieutenant on 28 Jan 1942. It is known that he was still in the army in 1946 but after that there is no record of him.

    Does anyone have any ideas about tracing his army history after that date even if only his discharge.


    Hi,

    Your post interested me as my Great Grandfather was also in the RIASC and took an emergency commission in 1942. After the second world war he returned home to what is now, Pakistan.

    As I understand it, those that wanted to remain in the Indian continent found a role in the new armies of India and Pakistan.

    Now, the British Library holds some records of those who served in the post Pakistan and Indian armies. I.e. those relating to British nationals.

    I found my ancestors British army service records which cover up until 1942. I then ordered his service records from the British library and was told that there was only a confidential report from Pakistan in 1957. I've got a hole in his service records from 1942-1947. His time as an officer.

    I've been told to contact the British Library and tell them that he was promoted from the ranks.

    I would be interested to hear how you get on with tracing your relative.

    Good luck,

    Rich
     
  4. Maureene

    Maureene Well-Known Member

  5. drailton

    drailton Senior Member

    The subject of my enquiry, Thomas Ernest Abbott, was commissioned in the Royal Indian Army Service Corps on on 28 Jan 1942. It is known that he was still in the army in 1946 but after that there is no record of him. His daughter is currently visiting Delhi where she is trying to find his service record an the Adjutant General's office. Her problem is that that they require his service number which we do not have as it is not given in the London Gazette.

    Another possible line of enquiry has arisen. Might he have transferred to the British Army at the time of Indian independance. There is nothing in the Gazette to show this and I doubt that it happened given the surplus of army personnel at the end of the war. However, I would like to look at the possibility. Can anyone tell me if any RIASC officers did transfer to the British Army at that time and if they did where I should make enquiries.
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I have found this on http://www.unithistories.com/officers/IndianArmy_officers_A01.html : there does seem a lack of any detailed info on a lot of the promoted officers in this section of this site



    Abbott,
    Thomas Ernest
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    Married ...; one son, two daughters.

    01.11.1906
    -


    Pte.

    ?

    2nd Lt.

    28.01.1942

    WS/Lt.

    01.10.1942 (reld > 04.1947)



    28.01.1942





    commissioned, Indian Army [emergency commission]







    served Indian Army Service Corps
     
  7. drailton

    drailton Senior Member

    Thanks for your reply. I gave that information to that website.
    David
     
  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    drailton,

    Do you know where he was born, I am searching Ancestry for records, but in order to limit the search it would be good to know a few more details if you have and unless you have already done that search
    Thanks
    TD
    re your last post OK - they don't say who has posted the info
     
  9. drailton

    drailton Senior Member

    TD,
    Thomas Ernest Abbott was born on 1 November 1906 at Alozufferpore? (I don't know of this place other than that it is in Bengal India, probably a misspelling). He was the son of Ernest, an indigo planter, and Constance Helen Abbott . He married, firstly, Eileen Cavel Curtis ar Purnea in Bengal on 18 Januray 1936. This marriage ended in divorce. He married, secondly, Patricia Stephens, in India in about 1943.
    David
     
  10. Maureene

    Maureene Well-Known Member

  11. drailton

    drailton Senior Member

    Maureen,
    Thank you for the interpretation of Mozufferpore. I now know where it is.
    David
     

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