no, actually i meant that help provided by the Allies doesn't entitle them for the status of being a victors in WW2 ; helpers - yes, but not a victors. . I think that this post will go no where until the concept of 'victors' is explained. The western forces were still standing in Europe after the defeat of Nazi Germany. As you know this lead to the Cold War. What do you mean by the term 'victors'?